Andrew:  knowledge cannot be represented by language.

you mean, of course,"...represented by language alone."

My position is, relative to that and the outgoing orthodoxy of literacy, extreme :

it is that language is just one - albeit the central binding one - of our evergrowing tree of sign systems,

and EVERY SINGLE SIGN SYSTEM IS UNIQUE AND INDISPENSIBLE - offers a unique and more or less indispensible way of representing the world, and some dimensions of the world.

Cartoons, maps, photos, movies, arithmetic, algebra, geometry, 3-d models, sculptures, smell-o-movies

EACH is indispensible.

NONE can be translated into language. A verbal description of a cartoon, map, photo, movie is not remotely the same thing as the original.

The idea that everything can be translated into language - every picture can be "read" - is still an extremely widespread fallacy - and wrong.

We can call this the SEMIOTIC TEXT fallacy - the idea that every sign system can be treated as a linguistic text.

An extension of this is the extremely widespread AI fallacy that everything can be *meaningfully* encoded into some universal code. You see this fallacy over and over here - almost inextinguishable at the moment - the idea that an encoding of a picture constitutes an *understanding* of the picture - an understanding of the objects and shapes in the picture, when it doesn't at all.

The SEMIOTIC TEXT/CODE fallacy is a giant barrier in the way of any AGI progress or AGI beginning.

What I am advancing is the SEMIOTIC TREE or PICTURE TREE position - wh. in the age of multimediacy, will inevitably triumph. Every level and branch of the semiotic tree is indispensible in representing the world - just as every sense is indispensible for a living AGI that really lives in the world.

And true AGI-ers can't just be literate in maths, logic, and computer code and logical language. They have to be literate visually in all the different visual and aural media. They have to be semiotic generalists not hyperspecialists.



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