The igi.org domain no longer seems to be offering its self for sale when I visit it. Did someone buy it already?
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Colin Hales <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Logan, > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 09:48:03AM +1000, colin hales wrote: >> > Sorry about the previous empty. Phone issue. 10 thumbs. >> > >> > My particular flavour of the non-computer approach is irrelevant. I am >> not pushing my own at all. >> > >> > Robot $ and kind irrelevant. I have the math you speak of. Wrong on >> both counts. >> > >> > I do not care what kind of NC-AGI arises. All I know is that NC-AGI >> important, neglected and needs a champion. >> >> okay so obviously you are the champion. >> Why is it important? >> >> Because it's never been done. > > >> you guys have been talking about it for a week now, >> and I still have no idea why you think it has value. >> >> like lets be honest here, anything that isn't a computer or >> technology is biology. so what you are really talking about >> (seems to me) is biological-AGI, or connecting a vat of >> brain-cells to a computer. >> this has been done, and can play simple video games. >> but so can deep neuronets on computers. >> > > No it is not necessarily biology. H-AGI can use biological material or > make inorganic versions of the biological substrate. Mine is totally > inorganic. > > And while hooking bio material to other hardware has been done, it has not > been done by anyone headed in the direction of an AGI. Pure wet > neuroscience? Yes. Machine learning? Yes. Robot control? Yes. This > particular approach is not what I intend. Dorian may be more interested in > that. I don't want to stop anyone doing any of it just because it clashes > with my own vision of it. > > >> >> >> > So please set anything you think you know about me or my approach >> aside. You actually know almost nothing and what little that is is >> irrelevant to what is happening in this thread. >> >> okay so do you have some kind of proprietary secret approach? >> >> I was thinking you can Dorian can sign an NDA and then no one >> will ever know about anything you guys do. >> >> personally I think that there are a lot of potential ethical >> issues with using biological mediums for computation, also they >> aren't particularly scalable or portable. >> >> >> I can see scalability. I can see portability. I can see generativity. It > will be clunky at first like all new ideas. It has an organic and an > inorganic aspect. All untried as H-AGI. > > Both Dorian and I have written up and published everything that is needed > to get your head round the fundamentals, which I know can be hard to see > for those without the biophysics. We have both argued for a long time, one > way or another, that the approach is novel. The one-liner explanation: > > *H-AGI is where the brain physics essential to an AGI is identified and > included in an AGI substrate. This is achieved by actually replicating the > physics (organic/inorganic, doesn't matter) and including that physics on > the substrate then and testing its performance against alternatives that > lack that physics (i.e. that might ignore it or model it, replacing it with > the physics of the instantiation of the model, whatever that might be).* > > So it's rather simple. Both Dorian and I have identified candidate > 'low-hanging fruit' physics. There may be others. That physics may be the > crucial missing link that has dogged AGI for decades. If so, then all > activity that did not include that essential physics was actually destined > to underperform in mysterious ways that it is H-AGIs job to sort out. The > IGI, if it existed, would do that. > > Yes there are heaps of ethical issues with any AGI approach. The H-AGI > inorganic version will have one ethics/risk landscape, the H-AGI organic > version another. Both of these will contrast with the C-AGI risk landscape. > In what ways? I dunno! Let's find out! > > regards > > Colin Hales > > > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/26973278-698fd9ee> | > Modify > <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> > Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
