The domain name owner can be contacted at the e-mail address
[email protected].  Ask him how much he wants for the domain.

We can always just grab a free domain name and change later once the
organization gets going.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Colin Hales <[email protected]> wrote:

> I didn't buy igi.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Benjamin Kapp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The igi.org domain no longer seems to be offering its self for sale when
>> I visit it.  Did someone buy it already?
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Colin Hales <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Logan,
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 09:48:03AM +1000, colin hales wrote:
>>>> > Sorry about the previous empty. Phone issue. 10 thumbs.
>>>> >
>>>> > My particular flavour of the non-computer approach is irrelevant. I
>>>> am not pushing my own at all.
>>>> >
>>>> > Robot $ and kind irrelevant. I have the math you speak of. Wrong on
>>>> both counts.
>>>> >
>>>> > I do not care what kind of NC-AGI arises. All I know is that NC-AGI
>>>> important, neglected and needs a champion.
>>>>
>>>> okay so obviously you are the champion.
>>>> Why is it important?
>>>>
>>>> Because it's never been done.
>>>
>>>
>>>> you guys have been talking about it for a week now,
>>>> and I still have no idea why you think it has value.
>>>>
>>>> like lets be honest here, anything that isn't a computer or
>>>> technology is biology.  so what you are really talking about
>>>> (seems to me) is biological-AGI, or connecting a vat of
>>>> brain-cells to a computer.
>>>> this has been done, and can play simple video games.
>>>> but so can deep neuronets on computers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No it is not necessarily biology. H-AGI can use biological material or
>>> make inorganic versions of the biological substrate. Mine is totally
>>> inorganic.
>>>
>>> And while hooking bio material to other hardware has been done, it has
>>> not been done by anyone headed in the direction of an AGI. Pure wet
>>> neuroscience? Yes. Machine learning? Yes. Robot control? Yes. This
>>> particular approach is not what I intend. Dorian may be more interested in
>>> that. I don't want to stop anyone doing any of it just because it clashes
>>> with my own vision of it.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > So please set anything you think you know about me or my approach
>>>> aside. You actually know almost nothing and what little that is is
>>>> irrelevant to what is happening in this thread.
>>>>
>>>> okay so do you have some kind of proprietary secret approach?
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking you can Dorian can sign an NDA and then no one
>>>> will ever know about anything you guys do.
>>>>
>>>> personally I think that there are a lot of potential ethical
>>>> issues with using biological mediums for computation, also they
>>>> aren't particularly scalable or portable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can see scalability. I can see portability. I can see generativity.
>>> It will be clunky at first like all new ideas. It has an organic and an
>>> inorganic aspect. All untried as H-AGI.
>>>
>>> Both Dorian and I have written up and published everything that is
>>> needed to get your head round the fundamentals, which I know can be hard to
>>> see for those without the biophysics. We have both argued for a long time,
>>> one way or another, that the approach is novel. The one-liner explanation:
>>>
>>> *H-AGI is where the brain physics essential to an AGI is identified and
>>> included in an AGI substrate. This is achieved by actually replicating the
>>> physics (organic/inorganic, doesn't matter) and including that physics on
>>> the substrate then and testing its performance against alternatives that
>>> lack that physics (i.e. that might ignore it or model it, replacing it with
>>> the physics of the instantiation of the model, whatever that might be).*
>>>
>>> So it's rather simple. Both Dorian and I have identified candidate
>>> 'low-hanging fruit' physics. There may be others. That physics may be the
>>> crucial missing link that has dogged AGI for decades. If so, then all
>>> activity that did not include that essential physics was actually destined
>>> to underperform in mysterious ways that it is H-AGIs job to sort out. The
>>> IGI, if it existed, would do that.
>>>
>>> Yes there are heaps of ethical issues with any AGI approach. The H-AGI
>>> inorganic version will have one ethics/risk landscape, the H-AGI organic
>>> version another. Both of these will contrast with the C-AGI risk landscape.
>>> In what ways? I dunno! Let's find out!
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Colin Hales
>>>
>>>
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