> I don't think this is the operational sense of NLP as pursued by
> applying linguistic theories in narrow AI setting. (e.g. Dynamic
> Syntax, DRT, HPSG, ...)

but we want to apply NLP generally (i.e. not just in a narrow AI setting)

> I was writing in context of Mark Waser language-specific solutions (as
> I understand them), which if wished could be later reused in boarder
> contexts.

Actually, to convert from one language-specific version to another would be 
pretty trivial I believe.  I think that all it would require would be tagging 
each word with a language, a languageA to languageB dictionary, and a quick 
overhaul of the parser and generator to make the link types be language 
specific.  And yes, I *am* saying/claiming that I believe that this approach 
will pretty much automatically give you natural language translation.

>> In other words, although there is enough special-purpose hardware in there to
>> make it make sense to call language a "module", the full capability is so
>> interwoven with general cognition that it can't be separated across a
>> bottleneck.

I agree strongly with Josh here . . . . 

> We stumble here on the meaning of capacity in this context. For
> example, a general GUI library is not expected to be generally
> intelligent.

because I don't think that a general NLP is possible without general 
intelligence (again, of a *very* specific level).

= = = = = = = = = =

One of the things that I may have not been clear about saying (that is 
absolutely critical) is that I don't believe that NLP is possible *unless* you 
have a built-in world model.  And, I don't know how you would have a world 
model without a certain amount of general intelligence.  Fortunately, as I've 
stated in a previous email -- "I'm also getting the impression (or developing a 
stronger opinion) that there is far more declarative knowledge than actual 
rules at this level" -- with the importance of this being that I believe that 
declarative knowledge can be harvested while (initially, at least) rules are 
going to have to be hand-coded.

    Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lukasz Stafiniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <agi@v2.listbox.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [agi] rule-based NL system


> On 4/28/07, J. Storrs Hall, PhD. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I disagree with this two ways. First, it's fairly well accepted among
>> mainstream AI researchers that full NL competence is "AI-complete", i.e. that
>> human-level intelligence is a prerequisite for NL.
> 
> I don't think this is the operational sense of NLP as pursued by
> applying linguistic theories in narrow AI setting. (e.g. Dynamic
> Syntax, DRT, HPSG, ...)
> 
>> Secondly, even the parsing
>> part of NLP is part of a more general recursive sequence
>> understander/generator, which is used for doing complex tasks with the hands
>> (and the conjecture is that language bootstrapped itself on this capability).
>>
> I was writing in context of Mark Waser language-specific solutions (as
> I understand them), which if wished could be later reused in boarder
> contexts.
> 
>> In other words, although there is enough special-purpose hardware in there to
>> make it make sense to call language a "module", the full capability is so
>> interwoven with general cognition that it can't be separated across a
>> bottleneck.
>>
>> Josh
>>
> We stumble here on the meaning of capacity in this context. For
> example, a general GUI library is not expected to be generally
> intelligent.
> 
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