You can take NARS (http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/) as an example, starting at http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.logic_intelligence.pdf
Pei On 5/1/07, rooftop8000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It seems a lot of posts on this list are about the properties an AGI should have. PLURALISTIC, OPEN-ENDED AGI, adaptive, sometimes irrational .. it can be useful to talk about them, but i'd rather hear about how this translates into real projects. How to make a program that can deal with uncertainty and is adaptive and can think irrationally at times.. Seems like an awful lot of things.. how should we organize all this? How do we take existing solutions for some of these problems and make sure new ones can get added .. --- Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you are very right. And my point is that there are absolutely major > philosophical issues here - both the general philosophy of mind and > epistemology, and the more specific philosophy of AI. In fact, I think my > characterisation of the issue as one of monism [general - behavioural as > well as of substance] vs pluralism [again general - not just cultural] is > probably the best one. > > So do post further thoughts, esp. re AI./AGI - this is well worth pursuing > and elaborating. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Loosemore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <agi@v2.listbox.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:31 PM > Subject: [agi] The role of incertainty > > > > The discussion of uncertainty reminds me of a story about Piaget that > > struck a chord with me. > > > > Apparently, when Piaget was but a pup, he had the job of scoring tests > > given to kids. His job was to count the correct answers, but he started > > getting interested in the wrong answers. When he mentioned to his bosses > > that the wrong answers looked really interesting in their wrongness, they > > got made at him and pointed out that wrong was just wrong, and all they > > were interested in was how to make the kids get more right answers. > > > > At that point, P had a revelation: looking at right answers told him > > nothing about the children, whereas all the information about what they > > were really thinking was buried in the wrong answers. So he dumped his > > dead-end job and became Jean Piaget, Famous Psychologist instead. > > > > When I read the story I had a similar feeling of Aha! Thinking isn't > > about a lot of Right Thinking sprinkled with the occasional annoying > > Mistake. Thinking is actually a seething cauldron of Mistakes, some of > > which get less egregious over time and become Not-Quite-So-Bad Mistakes, > > which we call rational thinking. > > > > I think this attitude to how the mind works, though it is painted in > > bright colors, is more healthy than the attitude that thinking is about > > reasoning modulated by uncertainty. > > > > (Perhaps this is what irritates me so much about the people who call > > themselves Bayesians: people so desperate to believe that they are > > perfect that they have made a religion out of telling each other that they > > think perfectly, when in fact they are just as irrational as any other > > religious fanatic). ;-) > > > > > > > > Richard Loosemore. > > > > > > ----- > > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: > > 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 06:30 > > > > > > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&;
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