Yes, you are very right. And my point is that there are absolutely major philosophical issues here - both the general philosophy of mind and epistemology, and the more specific philosophy of AI. In fact, I think my characterisation of the issue as one of monism [general - behavioural as well as of substance] vs pluralism [again general - not just cultural] is probably the best one.

So do post further thoughts, esp. re AI./AGI - this is well worth pursuing and elaborating.

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Subject: [agi] The role of incertainty


The discussion of uncertainty reminds me of a story about Piaget that struck a chord with me.

Apparently, when Piaget was but a pup, he had the job of scoring tests given to kids. His job was to count the correct answers, but he started getting interested in the wrong answers. When he mentioned to his bosses that the wrong answers looked really interesting in their wrongness, they got made at him and pointed out that wrong was just wrong, and all they were interested in was how to make the kids get more right answers.

At that point, P had a revelation: looking at right answers told him nothing about the children, whereas all the information about what they were really thinking was buried in the wrong answers. So he dumped his dead-end job and became Jean Piaget, Famous Psychologist instead.

When I read the story I had a similar feeling of Aha! Thinking isn't about a lot of Right Thinking sprinkled with the occasional annoying Mistake. Thinking is actually a seething cauldron of Mistakes, some of which get less egregious over time and become Not-Quite-So-Bad Mistakes, which we call rational thinking.

I think this attitude to how the mind works, though it is painted in bright colors, is more healthy than the attitude that thinking is about reasoning modulated by uncertainty.

(Perhaps this is what irritates me so much about the people who call themselves Bayesians: people so desperate to believe that they are perfect that they have made a religion out of telling each other that they think perfectly, when in fact they are just as irrational as any other religious fanatic). ;-)



Richard Loosemore.


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