Sure, but the nature of AGI is that wizzy demos are likely to come fairly
late in the development process.  All of us actively working in the field
understand this....

-- Ben G

On 6/6/07, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Ben,

I'd be looking for a totally different proof-of-concept for AGI. (I
brought in Hawkins - not to rehash our arguments - because I consider him an
example of  good proof-of-concept practice).

I'd be looking for proof of higher adaptivity (to use Peter's term). If
Peter Voss' Maze Explorer could, for argument's sake, find a totally new
kind of path through the maze, or develop a radically new way of moving - in
one way or other, fundamentally change the "rules of the game" - that would
do for me to start with. And that, I think, would do for the world - and get
comparable attention to what Hawkins got.  [Please don't hold me too closely
to my definition of higher adaptivity - I would think you know essentially
what I mean].

I'm only echoing what you yourself said:

"I believe I have a description of software that will do this, when
all the details are worked out ... but without a proof (mathematical or
far better by demonstration!!), I realize this isn't
going to get anyone really excited..."

It takes a proof-of-concept or demonstration to get people excited - and,
to repeat, it can be v. v. simple. People ARE excited even if still
sceptical about Hawkins who has only demonstrated a kind of object
recognition not AGI.

Ben:
Mike, putting together a demo of a machine learning system recognizing
objects from simple line drawings would take me less than one month, using
textbook technologies.  Not worthwhile.  Putting together a simple
reinforcement learning system doing the same stuff as NM does in that fetch
video would not take much more time than that either.

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