Interesting background about on some thermodynamics history J.
But basic definitions of intelligence, not talking about reinventing particle physics here, a basic, workable definition, not rigorous mathematical proof just something simple. AI, AGI c'mon not asking for tooo much. In my mind it is not looking that sophisticated at the atomic level and it seems like it is VERY applicable for implementation if not required for testing. Though Hutter and Legg are apparently working diligently on this stuff and have a lot papers. John I largely agree. It's worth pointing out that Carnot published "Reflections on the Motive Power of Fire" and established the science of thermodynamics more than a century after the first working steam engines were built. That said, I opine that an intuitive grasp of some of the important elements in what will ultimately become the science of intelligence is likely to be very useful to those inventing AGI. Yeah, most certainly.... However, an intuitive grasp -- and even a well-fleshed-out qualitative theory supplemented by heuristic back-of-the-envelope calculations and prototype results -- is very different from a defensible, rigorous theory that can stand up to the assaults of intelligent detractors.... I didn't start seriously trying to design & implement AGI until I felt I had a solid intuitive grasp of all related issues. But I did make a conscious choice to devote more effort to utilizing my intuitive grasp to try to design and create AGI, rather than to creating better general AI theories.... Both are worthy pursuits, and both are difficult. I actually enjoy theory better. But my sense is that the heyday of AGI theorizing is gonna come after AGI experimentation has progressed a good bit further than it has today... ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=55760136-171cbf