There are different routes to AGI.
"Development is a very expensive and time-consuming way to find out what we don't know." Knowing what we are trying to create could potentially help to find easier ways of creating it. Could there be an easier way? Maybe a self-modifying codebase that takes a few months and then you just let it run and feed it resources? As a software developer I'm always looking for EASY. Though sometimes it cannot be found and you have to go with a concrete design - which Novamente does seem to be that. John From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to reiterate my opinion: I think all this theorizing about definitions and tests and so forth is interesting, but not necessary at all for the creation of AGI. Any more than, say, the philosophy of quantum mechanics is necessary for building lasers or semiconductors or SQUIDS. Of course philosophical and conceptual work can be instrumental in guiding practical work ... but my strong feeling is that we can progress straight to powerful AGI right now without first having to do anything like -- define a useful, rigorous definition of intelligence -- define a pragmatic IQ test for AGI's etc. ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=55577697-148aab