Ed,

1) Human-level AGI with access to current knowledge base cannot build
AGI. (Humans can't)

2) When AGI is developed, humans will be able to build AGI (by copying
successful AGI models). The same with human-level AGI -- it will be
able to copy successful AGI model.

But that's not exactly self-building AGI you are looking for :-)

3) Humans have different level intelligence and skills. Not all are
able to develop programs. The same is true regarding AGI.


Friday, November 30, 2007, 10:20:08 AM, you wrote:

> Computers are currently designed by human-level intellitences, so presumably
> they could be designed by human-level AGI's. (Which if they were human-level
> in the tasks that are currently hard for computers means they could be
> millions of times faster than humans for tasks at which computers already
> way out perform us.) I mention that "appropriate reading and training" would
> be required, and I assumed this included access to computer science and
> computer technology sources, which the peasants of the middle age would not
> have access.  

> So I don't understand your problem.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Gorelik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:01 AM
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> Subject: [agi] Self-building AGI

> Ed,

>> At the current stages this may be true, but it should be remembered that
>> building a human-level AGI would be creating a machine that would itself,
>> with the appropriate reading and training, be able to design and program
>> AGIs.

> No.
> AGI is not necessarily that capable. In fact first versions of AGI
> would not be that capable for sure.

> Consider middle age peasant, for example. Such peasant has general
> intelligence ("GI" part in "AGI"), right?
> What kind of training would you provide to such peasant in order to
> make him design AGI?


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