1) While in my own AI projects I am currently gravitating toward an approach involving virtual-worlds grounding, as a general rule I don't think it's obvious that sensorimotor grounding is needed for AGI. Certainly it's very useful, but there is no strong argument that it's required. The human path to AGI is not the only one.
2) I think that, potentially, building a KB could be part of an approach to "solving the grounding problem." Encode some simple knowledge, instruct the system in how to ground it in its sensorimotor experience ... then encode some more (slightly more complex) knowledge ... etc. I'm not saying this is the best way but it seems a viable approach. Thus, even if you want to take a grounding-focused approach, it doesn't follow that fully solving the grounding problem must precede the creation and utilization of a KB. Rather, there could be a solution to the grounding problem that couples a KB with other aspects. In the NM approach, we could proceed with or without a KB, and with or without sensorimotor grounding; and I believe NARS has that same property... My feeling is that sensorimotor grounding is an "Extremely Nice to Have" whereas a KB is just a "Sort of Nice to Have", but I don't have a rigorous demonstration of that.... -- Ben G On Feb 17, 2008 11:30 AM, Russell Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 3:34 PM, Pei Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As Lukasz just pointed out, there are two topics: > > 1. Cyc as an AGI project > > 2. Cyc as a knowledge base useful for AGI systems. > > Well, I'm talking about Cyc (and similar systems) as useful for > anything at all (other than experience to tell us what doesn't work > and why not). But if it's proposed that such a system might be a > useful knowledge base for something, then the something will have to > have solved the grounding problem, right? And what I'm saying is, I > wouldn't start off building a Cyc-like knowledge base and assume the > grounding problem will be solved later. I'd start off with the > grounding problem. > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms." -- Henry Miller ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=95818715-a78a9b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com