> From: Jey Kottalam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:30 AM > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Subject: Re: [agi] Porting MindForth AI into JavaScript Mind.html > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think Yudkowsky once said that AI remains at present largely the > > dominion of pioneers and mavericks. It's certainly not yet a mature > > science. The typical pattern which I've observed on AI forums and > > lists over the last 15 years goes something like the following: > > > > Fully agreed. I'm drawing a distinction between scientifically > grounded pioneering mavericks (e.g. Yudkowsky) and unscientific > nonsense. > > This list is being dominated by nonsense because the scientifically > grounded people on this list don't want to take the time to refute > every piece of fantastic drivel. I certainly don't blame them for > wanting to focus on their time on other more productive projects, but > it ultimately reflects poorly on the list and scares away > scientifically grounded AGI newbies by reinforcing the idea that AGI > is the exclusive domain of "crackpots". >
Mixing science and software engineering usually has interesting results. But I don't like to be the one to break the news to you - if software engineering waited for science, all the wonderful things with software, the internet, et. al. we have now - WOULD NOT EXIST. Technology, especially software related moves so fast sometimes and in spurts that obeying the scientific method law - NO WORKIE. So when you get these AI egoistic scientific grumpy crotchety guys complaining that their name is not in stars due to all the years of work they've put in, naturally you will get some disheartening behavior. Nonetheless I do feel more science is needed, and in particular math. I like the way math mixes with software, internet and computer technology verses how it works with science when theorizing and developing AGI. John ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=103754539-40ed26 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
