On 9/4/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> However, could you guys be more specific regarding the statistical >> differences of different types of data? What kind of differences are you >> talking about specifically (mathematically)? And what about the differences >> at the various levels of the dual-hierarchy? Has any of your work or >> research suggested this hypothesis, if so which? >> > > > Sorry I've been fuzzy on this ... I'm engaging in this email conversation > in odd moments while at a conference (Virtual Worlds 2008, in Los > Angeles...) > > Specifically I think that patterns interrelating the I/O stream of system S > with the relation between the system S's embodiment and its environment, are > important. It is these patterns that let S build a self-model of its > physical embodiment, which then leads S to a more abstract self-model (aka > Metzinger's "phenomenal self") > So in short you are saying that the main difference between I/O data by a motor embodyed system (such as robot or human) and a laptop is the ability to interact with the data: make changes in its environment to systematically change the input?
> Considering patterns in the above category, it seems critical to have a > rich variety of patterns at varying levels of complexity... so that the > patterns at complexity level L are largely approximable as compositions of > patterns at complexity less than L. This way a mind can incrementally build > up its self-model via recognizing slightly complex self-related patterns, > then acting based on these patterns, then recognizing somewhat more complex > self-related patterns involving its recent actions, and so forth. > Definitely. It seems that a human body's sensors and actuators are suited to create > and recognize patterns of the above sort whereas the sensors and actuators > of a > > laptop w/o network cables or odd peripherals are not... > Agree. ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=111637683-c8fa51 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com