Matt Mahoney wrote:
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Would a program be conscious if it passes the Turing
test? If not, what else is required?

No.

An understanding of what consciousness actually is, for starters.
It is a belief.
No it is not.

And that statement ("It is a belief") is a cop-out theory.

No. Depending on your definition of consciousness, there is either an
objective test for it or not. If consciousness results in an
observable difference in behavior, then a machine that passes the
Turing test must be conscious because there is no observable
difference between it and a human. Or, if consciousness is not
observable, then you must admit that the brain does something that
cannot be explained by the known (computable) laws of physics. You
conveniently avoid this inconsistency by refusing to define what you
mean by consciousness. That is a cop-out.

Your 'belief' explanation is a cop-out because it does not address any of the issues that need to be addressed for something to count as a definition or an explanation of the facts that need to be explained.

My proposal is being written up now and will be available at the end of tomorrow. It does address all of the facts that need to be explained.



Richard Loosemore


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