--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Would a program be conscious if it passes the Turing > >> test? If not, what else is required? > >> > >> No. > >> > >> An understanding of what consciousness actually is, for > >> starters. > > > > It is a belief. > > No it is not. > > And that statement ("It is a belief") is a cop-out theory.
No. Depending on your definition of consciousness, there is either an objective test for it or not. If consciousness results in an observable difference in behavior, then a machine that passes the Turing test must be conscious because there is no observable difference between it and a human. Or, if consciousness is not observable, then you must admit that the brain does something that cannot be explained by the known (computable) laws of physics. You conveniently avoid this inconsistency by refusing to define what you mean by consciousness. That is a cop-out. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com