--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Mahoney wrote: > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Your 'belief' explanation is a cop-out because it does not address > >> any of the issues that need to be addressed for something to count > >> as a definition or an explanation of the facts that need to be > >> explained. > > > > As I explained, animals that have no concept of death have > > nevertheless evolved to fear most of the things that can kill them. > > Humans have learned to associate these things with death, and > > invented the concept of consciousness as the large set of features > > which distinguishes living humans from dead humans. Thus, humans fear > > the loss or destruction of consciousness, which is equivalent to > > death. > > > > Consciousness, free will, qualia, and good and bad are universal > > human beliefs. We should not confuse them with truth by asking the > > wrong questions. Thus, Turing sidestepped the question of "can > > machines think?" by asking instead "can machines appear to think"? > > Since we can't (by definition) distinguish doing something from > > appearing to do something, it makes no sense for us to make this > > distinction. > > The above two paragraphs STILL do not address any of the > issues that need to be addressed for something to count as a > definition, or an explanation of the facts that need to be > explained.
And you STILL have not defined what consciousness is. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
