That made almost no sense to me. I'm not trying to be rude here, but that sounded like the ramblings of one who doesn't have the necessary grasp of the key ideas required to speculate intelligently about these things. The fact that you once again managed to mention psilocybin does nothing to help your cause, either... and that's coming from someone who believes that psychedelics can be valuable, if used properly.
Terren --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton <brila...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Eric Burton <brila...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: FW: [agi] Lamarck Lives!(?) > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:11 PM > Ok. > > >"We think we're seeing short-term memories > forming in the hippocampus and slowly turning into > >long-term memories in the cortex," says Miller, > who presented the results last week at the Society > >for Neuroscience meeting in Washington DC. > > It certainly sounds like the genetic changes are limited to > the brain > itself. Perhaps there is some kind of extra DNA scratch > space allotted > to cranial nerve cells. I understand that psilocybin, a > phosphorylated > serotonin-like neurotransmitter found in fungal mycelia, > may have > evolved as a phosphorous bank for all the DNA needed in > spore > production. The structure of fungal mycelia closely > approximates that > of the brains found in the animal kingdom, which may have > evolved from > the same or some shared point. Then we see how the brain > can be viewed > as a qualified, indeed purpose-built DNA recombination > factory! > > Fungal mycelia could be approaching all this from the > opposite > direction, doing DNA computation incidentally so as to > perform > short-term weather forecasts and other environmental > calculations, > simply because there is so much of it about for the next > sporulation. > A really compelling avenue for investigation > > >"The cool idea here is that the brain could be > borrowing a form of cellular memory from > >developmental biology to use for what we think of as > memory," says Marcelo Wood, who > >researches long-term memory at the University of > California, Irvine. > > Yes. It is > > Eric B > > On 12/11/08, Eric Burton <brila...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't know how you derived the value 10^4, Matt, > but that seems > > reasonable to me. Terren, let me go back to the > article and try to > > understand what exactly it says is happening. > Certainly that's my > > editorial's crux > > > > On 12/11/08, Matt Mahoney <matmaho...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton > <brila...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I don't think that each inheritor receives > a full set of the > >>> original's memories. But there may have > *evolved* in spite of the > >>> obvious barriers, a means of transferring > primary or significant > >>> experience from one organism to another in > genetic form... > >>> we can imagine such a thing given this news! > >> > >> Well, we could, if there was any evidence > whatsoever for Lamarckian > >> evolution, and if we thought with our reproductive > organs. > >> > >> To me, it suggests that AGI could be implemented > with a 10^4 speedup over > >> whole brain emulation -- maybe. Is it possible to > emulate a sparse neural > >> network with 10^11 adjustable neurons and 10^15 > fixed, random connections > >> using a non-sparse neural network with 10^11 > adjustable connections? > >> > >> -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------- > >> agi > >> Archives: > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > >> RSS Feed: > https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > >> Modify Your Subscription: > >> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=123753653-47f84b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
