Mike Tintner wrote: > Huh, Matt? What examples of this "holistic" scene analysis are there (or are >you thinking about)? I mean a neural model with increasingly complex features, as opposed to an algorithmic 3-D model (like video game graphics in reverse).
Of course David rejects such ideas ( http://practicalai.org/Prize/Default.aspx ) even though the one proven working vision model uses it. -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com ________________________________ From: Mike Tintner <tint...@blueyonder.co.uk> To: agi <agi@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 6:16:07 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Re: Huge Progress on the Core of AGI Huh, Matt? What examples of this "holistic" scene analysis are there (or are you thinking about)? From: Matt Mahoney Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:25 PM To: agi Subject: Re: [agi] Re: Huge Progress on the Core of AGI David Jones wrote: > I should also mention that I ran into problems mainly because I was having a >hard time deciding how to identify objects and determine what is really going >on in a scene. I think that your approach makes the problem harder than it needs to be (not that it is easy). Natural language processing is hard, so researchers in an attempt to break down the task into simpler parts, focused on steps like lexical analysis, parsing, part of speech resolution, and semantic analysis. While these problems went unsolved, Google went directly to a solution by skipping them. Likewise, parsing an image into physically separate objects and then building a 3-D model makes the problem harder, not easier. Again, look at the whole picture. You input an image and output a response. Let the system figure out which features are important. If your goal is to count basketball passes, then it is irrelevant whether the AGI recognizes that somebody is wearing a gorilla suit. agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
