Sorry, I wasn't very clear. What you describe is more or less what I was
referring to regarding "manual override".

For instance, I have no problem with a bot distributing Proposals
automatically as long as at least one player (or more preferably a chain of
command) has the ability to manually distribute Proposals as well, should
the bot be down, or should a unique situation arise requiring it.

Another place where automation might be of good benefit is with my economic
proposals. An automated web-page can easily track transfers of property and
property ownership taking 90% of the hassle out of it. An audit record can
be maintained by sending e-mail notification of all transactions to the
mailing list, and provisions can be allowed for the Secretary of the
Treasury to be able to manually undo or make transactions. The rule would
simply need to state that the Secretary must maintain records and historical
information on the list for audit purposes.

BobTHJ

On 5/22/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Roger Hicks wrote:
>What's wrong with automation?

It goes away when its maintainer does.  It has in some cases not in fact
been kept up to date.  If it bypasses email, there's no reliable record
of the transactions that actually occurred.

I'm all in favour of automation, as a tool for officers to execute
their obligations.  I have used varying degrees of automation each time
that I have held office in Agora.  But ultimately we need to have an
AI-complete entity (with present technology, a human) responsible for
carrying out the official duties.  If you prefer, the responsibility is
not so much for performing the duties directly, and more for ensuring
that automation is in place, kept up to date, and running smoothly.
*That* can't be delegated to a hundred lines of Perl.

The condition for appropriate use of automation is pretty much that
it's appropriate if it can't be noticed.  The human+program ensemble
has to be responsive to changes in the rules, claims of irregularity,
reinterpretations, and exceptions in crisis situations.  It has to respond
to and in English.  That's all we require, and I'll be impressed if you
can do it without the human.

-zefram

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