I move reconsideration. I recuse myself.
On Thursday, July 6, 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > TTttPF > ---- > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > > > > On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > I move to enter this judgement into moot. > > ---- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > > > > > > >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:35 PM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > wrote: > >> > >> This contains my motion to reconsider and my > >> adressing your argument (although cursorily) > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 6:42 PM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> I move to reconsider (you can't, you cndan intend to move > >> and wait for two support. > >> > >> I'm judging this FALSE. GASP! Surprise rocks the nation. > >> I'm not judging it FALSE because auctioning is a regulated > >> action though. It seems to me that despite the auction > >> provisions, people could auction their own property > >> without breaching the rules. I'm judging it based on the fact > >> that Estate ownership is regulated, and CB's attempt to auction > >> off Estates owned by another entity (Agora) and person (Josh) > >> does not work. > >> > >> "A player who owns an Estate can and may transfer it to any > >> player, to any Organization, or to Agora, by announcement" > >> from rule 2489 regulates Estate ownership, as does the auction > >> provision. This, mixed with the fact that the ordinary meaning of > >> the word "Owner" means someone who can control their > >> property, precludes anyone from taking an Estate from its owner > >> or causing it to be taken from em, unless specifically authorized > >> by rule (such as the auction provision). > >> > >> CB raises the additional argument that an auction still can be > >> called even if the winner cannot have the property transferred > >> to them. Auction is undefined. The ordinary meaning is > >> "a public sale in which goods or property are sold to the highest > >> bidder.". A sale cannot exist unless the property is actually > >> given to the winner of the auction. I have already explained that > >> this cannot happen. Therefore, an auction has not been called > >> here. > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> I motion to reconsider. > >> > >> Whether the winning bid can actually make a transfer or not shouldn't > affect if there is actually an *auction* or not in the first place, I > believe. > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:14 AM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> I'm judging this FALSE. GASP! Surprise rocks the nation. > >> I'm not judging it FALSE because auctioning is a regulated > >> action though. It seems to me that despite the auction > >> provisions, people could auction their own property > >> without breaching the rules. I'm judging it based on the fact > >> that Estate ownership is regulated, and CB's attempt to auction > >> off Estates owned by another entity (Agora) and person (Josh) > >> does not work. > >> > >> "A player who owns an Estate can and may transfer it to any > >> player, to any Organization, or to Agora, by announcement" > >> from rule 2489 regulates Estate ownership, as does the auction > >> provision. This, mixed with the fact that the ordinary meaning of > >> the word "Owner" means someone who can control their > >> property, precludes anyone from taking an Estate from its owner > >> or causing it to be taken from em, unless specifically authorized > >> by rule (such as the auction provision). > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 02:21 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: > >>> The moment is ripe to attempt something like this, because it's Auction > >>> time. Let's go: > >>> > >>> Putting Estates up to Auction is an unregulated action, much like > >>> withdrawing. (I don't personally believe this - because I believe all > >>> actions in the universe are Regulated - but many others do, so I'm > going > >>> off that). In case its of doubt, the following states an obligation > for the > >>> Surveyor to perform, so its not a description of "circumstances under > which > >>> the action would succeed or fail": > >>> > >>> "At the start of each month, if Agora owns at least one Estate, the > >>> Surveyor shall put one Estate which is owned by Agora up for auction, > by > >>> announcement. Each auction ends seven days after it begins." > >>> > >>> Additionally, the state of being in an auction or not is tracked by > nobody, > >>> so it doesn't infringe "would, as part of its effect, modify > information > >>> for which some player is required to be a recordkeepor" > >>> > >>> Therefore: > >>> > >>> - I put every Estate up for Auction, (even those owned by other > players, if > >>> possible). > >>> - I then bid a million shinies on each of them. > >>> - I then bid one shiny on each of them. > >>> > >>> I have absolutely no defense towards other people bidding more than a > >>> million and using my own "scam" to win auctions, which only works > versus > >>> the "conventional" way of winning them by bidding amounts of cash you > >>> actually own. > >>> > >>> I CFJ: "There is currently more than one auction for Estates" > >>> > >>> That's all. > >> > >> This is CFJ 3537. I assign it to V.J. Rada. > >> > >> -- > >> ais523 > >> Arbitor > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >
