Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Proposal Submission - Democratization

[Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion]

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
<agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
> > discussion  wrote:
> > > With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I believe that your
> > > Officer salary problem is part of a larger problem of Agora overall 
> > > needing
> > > a proper economy again, not a voting strength problem.
> >
> > So offer that as a package?  In my experience, when things are taken
> > away with the promise of new things to be added later, those things
> > stay taken away, and the new things never arrive.
>
> I sometimes feel like half my arguing at Agora is dedicated to trying
> to persuade people not to repeal the economy.
>
> It rarely works, and the consequence is that most of the time we don't
> have a functional economy. (Having a history of the economy being
> repealed is *also* a problem because it makes it harder to get a new
> economy off the ground – why invest if you think that everything is
> likely going to end up repealed again in the future?)
>
> I'd much rather take the route of trying to get the Radiance/Stamps
> system functional again, than of trying to repeal it. (Stamps in
> particular are one of the most powerful "new player perks" we've seen,
> and I suspect that that's a good thing.) I'd especially be against
> repealing it without a replacement.
>
> (Incidentally, IIRC many of the "officer perks" that Yachay is talking
> about elsethread were intentionally added a few years ago, during a
> time when there was no functional economy, as an attempt to give the
> officers some sort of reward – because there was nothing economic to
> reward them with, we needed to use some sort of more direct reward
> instead. Some of them are still around nowadays, like the Gray Ribbon.)
>
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> ais523