If we can get it to work, and I admit that's a big if, we are talking about something is fiscally conservative, pro-business, and the most moral thing we can do.
If those who call themselves "conservative" and "pro-Life" would be against it then they are betraying themselves, and that moniker. On Oct 29, 10:09 am, "Bern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ALEX BENNETT is the government?????? Gawd. WE ARE FUCKED! > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email and it's contents are intended for the orig > inal recepient only. It's contents may contain > confidential and/or profane language. > If you are not the intended recepient you > are instructed to delete it forthwith and beg forgiveness > for having read thus far. Failure to do so could > reslut in a stern letter of retribution from our lawyer, > J. Noble Dagget. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dan in Atlanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:48 AM > To: "AlexBennettProgram" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Socialism vs. Social Programs > > > > > > > But as it has been said, the Constitution is a living document. So > > it's meanings and interpretations changes with the times. > > > "Nowhere does the Constitution tell me what our society owes me, other > > than the common defense." -- Well it says promote the general welfare > > too. That's what society owes you as well. In this day and age, it > > includes health and education. Or at least it should. > > > The Constitution does not say anything about capitalism either. The > > first draft of the Constitution said nothing about the right's of > > women, yet we add amendments to it. > > > I think the problem you are having is that you are separating yourself > > from the government, as if it is out to get you. What most people > > forget is that YOU are the government. I am the government. Alex > > Bennett, and every other American is the government. People say the > > government is there only for corporate interests. That's only because > > we allowed it to happen. We have to make it work for what is best for > > the most Americans. > > > On Oct 29, 8:42 am, awaylate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I would argue that promoting the general welfare meant something very > >> different than paying for everyone's health care. Continued > >> recognition of new "rights" while relieving people of their own > >> responsibilities makes children of us all, with government as the > >> parent. People have the right to eat the bread earned by their own > >> work, and the right to be left alone. The Constitution is actually an > >> enumeration of "negative rights," proscribing what the Government > >> can't do. The government can't tell me what to say. It can't tell me > >> who to associate with, it can't keep me from owning the means of my > >> own self-defense. Nowhere does the Constitution tell me what our > >> society owes me, other than the common defense. The government (or > >> the People) does not owe me a home, does not owe me sustenance, does > >> not owe me happiness. What the government owes us all is a civil > >> structure that allows us to take care of ourselves without having to > >> worry about assault or oppression by others, including oppression by > >> mob rule. > > >> On Oct 27, 9:38 am, Brian S Paskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > There are many items that are not in the Constitution. However, the > >> > preamble of the Constitution does say, > > >> > "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect > >> > Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the > >> > common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings > >> > of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish > >> > this Constitution for the United States of America." > > >> > I would argue that "promote the general Welfare" covers health care. > > >> > -- > >> > Regards / Saluti / mit Freundlichen Grüßen, > >> > Brian > > >> > #-------------------------------------------# > >> > "La pittura è una poesia che si vede > >> > e non si sente, e la poesia è una > >> > pittura che si sente e non si vede." > > >> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]://www.paskino.com > >> > #-------------------------------------------# > > >> > On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Dan in Atlanta wrote: > > >> > > That's the issue a lot of right wingers like to fall back on. > > >> > > The "right" to health care is not officially in the Constitution, > >> > > there fore it is not a right of Americans. But I say that it is, at > >> > > the very least, a natural right; and if we need to formally put it in > >> > > the Constitution to satisfy those people, then I say we do so. > > >> > > On Oct 27, 10:07 am, "Brian S. Paskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> The Republicans, and some Democrats, do not know the difference > >> > >> between Socialism and social programs. Even Alex says Europe has > >> > >> Socialism. That is not exactly true. The States do not own any > >> > >> industries, except maybe the Post, and now some banks after the > >> > >> financial disaster of the last few months. What they do is tax > >> > >> people's income at a higher rate to give people more social > >> > >> programs, > >> > >> like health care, child care and education. The question is giving > >> > >> someone health care and education a redistribution of wealth, a sign > >> > >> of Socialism, or a right of the people. > > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Brian (Cambridge, MA)- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AlexBennettProgram" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/alexbennettprogram?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
