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-------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan in Atlanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:44 AM To: "AlexBennettProgram" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Socialism vs. Social Programs > > I really hope they put the political stuff in a separate magazine. > > Getting my porn via the Internet now, having a magazine is just too > cumbersome. :) > > > > On Oct 29, 10:41 am, tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> that would be cool if Alex was president, i hope his running mate >> would be BRUCE DAVID!!!!!!! >> >> free hustler for all US citizens >> >> peace >> tony >> >> On Oct 29, 10:09 am, "Bern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > ALEX BENNETT is the government?????? Gawd. WE ARE FUCKED! >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This email and it's contents are intended for the orig >> > inal recepient only. It's contents may contain >> > confidential and/or profane language. >> > If you are not the intended recepient you >> > are instructed to delete it forthwith and beg forgiveness >> > for having read thus far. Failure to do so could >> > reslut in a stern letter of retribution from our lawyer, >> > J. Noble Dagget. >> >> > -------------------------------------------------- >> > From: "Dan in Atlanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:48 AM >> > To: "AlexBennettProgram" <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: Socialism vs. Social Programs >> >> > > But as it has been said, the Constitution is a living document. So >> > > it's meanings and interpretations changes with the times. >> >> > > "Nowhere does the Constitution tell me what our society owes me, >> > > other >> > > than the common defense." -- Well it says promote the general welfare >> > > too. That's what society owes you as well. In this day and age, it >> > > includes health and education. Or at least it should. >> >> > > The Constitution does not say anything about capitalism either. The >> > > first draft of the Constitution said nothing about the right's of >> > > women, yet we add amendments to it. >> >> > > I think the problem you are having is that you are separating >> > > yourself >> > > from the government, as if it is out to get you. What most people >> > > forget is that YOU are the government. I am the government. Alex >> > > Bennett, and every other American is the government. People say the >> > > government is there only for corporate interests. That's only because >> > > we allowed it to happen. We have to make it work for what is best for >> > > the most Americans. >> >> > > On Oct 29, 8:42 am, awaylate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> I would argue that promoting the general welfare meant something >> > >> very >> > >> different than paying for everyone's health care. Continued >> > >> recognition of new "rights" while relieving people of their own >> > >> responsibilities makes children of us all, with government as the >> > >> parent. People have the right to eat the bread earned by their own >> > >> work, and the right to be left alone. The Constitution is actually >> > >> an >> > >> enumeration of "negative rights," proscribing what the Government >> > >> can't do. The government can't tell me what to say. It can't tell me >> > >> who to associate with, it can't keep me from owning the means of my >> > >> own self-defense. Nowhere does the Constitution tell me what our >> > >> society owes me, other than the common defense. The government (or >> > >> the People) does not owe me a home, does not owe me sustenance, does >> > >> not owe me happiness. What the government owes us all is a civil >> > >> structure that allows us to take care of ourselves without having to >> > >> worry about assault or oppression by others, including oppression by >> > >> mob rule. >> >> > >> On Oct 27, 9:38 am, Brian S Paskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> > There are many items that are not in the Constitution. However, >> > >> > the >> > >> > preamble of the Constitution does say, >> >> > >> > "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more >> > >> > perfect >> > >> > Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for >> > >> > the >> > >> > common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the >> > >> > Blessings >> > >> > of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish >> > >> > this Constitution for the United States of America." >> >> > >> > I would argue that "promote the general Welfare" covers health >> > >> > care. >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Regards / Saluti / mit Freundlichen Grüßen, >> > >> > Brian >> >> > >> > #-------------------------------------------# >> > >> > "La pittura è una poesia che si vede >> > >> > e non si sente, e la poesia è una >> > >> > pittura che si sente e non si vede." >> >> > >> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]://www.paskino.com >> > >> > #-------------------------------------------# >> >> > >> > On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Dan in Atlanta wrote: >> >> > >> > > That's the issue a lot of right wingers like to fall back on. >> >> > >> > > The "right" to health care is not officially in the >> > >> > > Constitution, >> > >> > > there fore it is not a right of Americans. But I say that it is, >> > >> > > at >> > >> > > the very least, a natural right; and if we need to formally put >> > >> > > it in >> > >> > > the Constitution to satisfy those people, then I say we do so. >> >> > >> > > On Oct 27, 10:07 am, "Brian S. Paskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > wrote: >> > >> > >> The Republicans, and some Democrats, do not know the difference >> > >> > >> between Socialism and social programs. Even Alex says Europe >> > >> > >> has >> > >> > >> Socialism. That is not exactly true. The States do not own any >> > >> > >> industries, except maybe the Post, and now some banks after the >> > >> > >> financial disaster of the last few months. What they do is tax >> > >> > >> people's income at a higher rate to give people more social >> > >> > >> programs, >> > >> > >> like health care, child care and education. The question is >> > >> > >> giving >> > >> > >> someone health care and education a redistribution of wealth, a >> > >> > >> sign >> > >> > >> of Socialism, or a right of the people. >> >> > >> > >> Regards, >> > >> > >> Brian (Cambridge, MA)- Hide quoted text - >> >> > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AlexBennettProgram" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/alexbennettprogram?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
