Hello Andy and Hamit, Who is this Neil, can you point to his review?
All electronic devices make a noise but most of them are out of our hearing range. An amplifier does make a noise especially when it is cranked up to it’s maximum. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are known for being noisy. So can you quote Neil saying that the Zoom 6 preamps are not noisy? Andy you can hear the pre-amp hiss on your bird recording. There are 2 ways you could eliminate or at least reduce that hiss if you wanted. That I know of. Regards, > On 14 May 2020, at 10:08, Andy via groups.io > <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: > > Hi Guys. > > You may remember within his H6 Review, Neal stated "I would not know just how > to measure the Floor noise , because there doesent seem to be one! > > > Andy. > > know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com > <mailto:hamitcam...@gmail.com>> > To: <all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How would you > do it? > > >> Ah yeah than 35 must be the 1 Neal sent. He sent it to the Reaper list. I've >> yet to finish that 1. >> >> On 5/13/2020 12:17 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>> Hello Hamit, >>> >>> No 36 is out. >>> >>> >>>> On 13 May 2020, at 17:04, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is 35 the newest 1? IF so no I've meant to just haven't gotten to it. Will >>>> do soon though. Thanks for the reminder. >>>> >>>> On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>> Hello Hamit, >>>>> >>>>> Out of interest do you listen to Mosen at large (specifically 35)? He is >>>>> singing from the roof about the F6 as it has an iPhone app which is not >>>>> perfect but gives access to functions we have never had access to before. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 16:07, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually Gena there's 1 place where I'll give it to ya. Dynamic mics. >>>>>> This is also true for the H5 but much much less oddly enough. Same for >>>>>> the H4N Pro. The H6 in this respect is again as noisy as the Olympus >>>>>> LS-100. Now can't say on the F6 as no one's demoed dynamics on that yet >>>>>> and Neal hasn't demoed dynamics on his 744-T so can't say nothing on >>>>>> that either. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:02 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Aidan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I am picky, there is nothing wrong in getting the best out of the >>>>>>> equipment. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are renowned for their hiss. It would be >>>>>>> useful to share your tips to get the most from the recorder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 13:52, Aidan <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If using something like h6 I cannot really imagine that you would need >>>>>>>> to apply noise filters. Unless you very picky. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/13/20, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hello Tim, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Interesting, if using a non destructive DAW like reaper, if it is >>>>>>>>> incorrectly applied simply undo it. I am not familiar with using >>>>>>>>> expanders. >>>>>>>>> But the noise comes from whatever equipment. Very few mics have a >>>>>>>>> undetectable noise floor and even the best pre-amps have some noise. >>>>>>>>> So a >>>>>>>>> light touch of post processing is likely to be required. But as you >>>>>>>>> rightly >>>>>>>>> point out it is down to the environment and what purpose the >>>>>>>>> recording is to >>>>>>>>> serve. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 12:23, tim cumings <thcumi...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree about most of theadvice here. However i would be careful >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> using a noise gate. If set incorrectly, a noise gate can make things >>>>>>>>>> sound >>>>>>>>>> worse than better. A downward expander would be better, but if you >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> using a quality mic and have recording levels set properly, even a >>>>>>>>>> downward expander probably isn't necessary, depending on what you are >>>>>>>>>> recording. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2020 5:30 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rather than making the current discussion on Zoom Microphones. very >>>>>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would ask the community of their experiences and how >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> undertake a recording? As I was not sure if Andy wanted tips on >>>>>>>>>>> recording >>>>>>>>>>> techniques I thought such a thread would help him and those of us >>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>> have a Zoom. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I would record in wav. Then use reaper to apply a noise >>>>>>>>>>> gate. >>>>>>>>>>> This removes hiss and other quiet unwanted noises. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would not use a capsule on the recorder unless it was the only mic >>>>>>>>>>> available for that application. Using such a mic I would secure the >>>>>>>>>>> recorder and start the recording early so that I could discard the >>>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>>> second as it will contain handling noise. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would not wear noisy clothing or jewellery and try to get away >>>>>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>>>>> active recording space. It is surprising how clothing, shoes and >>>>>>>>>>> bangles >>>>>>>>>>> rustle and jangle when you are trying to be quiet. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Then it is about choosing the mic for the sound stage I am trying to >>>>>>>>>>> capture. Remembering that the wider stage means that I have to be >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> much quieter. It could pick me up breathing and moving my feet. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Then there are practical considerations such as power for the Zoom >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> protection from wind and rain. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Of the top of my head these are the considerations I would employ >>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>> a recording. So what about your experiences and approach? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Gena >>>>> >>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Gena >>> >>> Call: M0EBP >>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>> Loc: IO83PS >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> >> > > > Gena Call: M0EBP DMR ID: 2346259 Loc: IO83PS 73 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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