Hi all, My thoughts on this subject are relatively straightforward and easy to express.
What you've described below is already available. In Windoze. There's a reason I don't run M$'s junk, apart from its instability. I *enjoy* learning, doing, customizing, and just playing around sometimes. This isn't possible in M$ junk. You take it however it comes. If you don't like choices A, B or C in a GUI, too bad, that's how somebody decided it should be set up. Linux isn't terribly easy, it isn't a Windoze wannabe, and it seems to me that anyone wanting such a "system" should feel free to use it. Linux has far more power in it generally, and ALSA's no exception. Again, you aren't presented with 3 choices, forget anything creative. As for M$'s "benchmarks", that's not a reason for screaming, it's more a cause for laughter. The choice is there for everyone to make, as they see fit. Take care, Steve > From: Jason Clouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy > > The way Steve said what he said was rather rude and sounded whiny. > But I *do* believe he's basically correct about a few things. > > Remember when some Microsoft sponsored benchmarks showed that Linux > had some problems and a lot of zealots screamed because Microsoft was > attacking Linux? Linus came out and said, "You know, they're actually > right. These ARE some weak points in the kernel. Let's fix them." > > Likewise, perhaps it would be good to take some things away from this > to concentrate on FIXING with Linux, ALSA, and music/audio > applications: > > 1. Feature support for many cards is not on par with support in > Windows and Mac OS. I know that vendor support has something to do > with this but maybe that can be viewed as a challenge? > > 2. Configuration is not terribly easy. It would be really cool if > there were very easy to use graphical tools for all the PCM plugins > (that I still don't entirely understand), routing, conversion, > multichannel stuff, and so on. These tools would be installed and run > automatically upon installation or detection of new audio hardware. > That would rock. > > 2b. Particularly, multichannel stuff (mainly surround sound) seems to > cause a lot of trouble, both from my own experience and from what I've > seen on this list. It should be as easy as, if not easier than, the > cool little control panels that are distributed with most sound cards. > This is not just flash, it's really easier to click a button and get > automatic 5 channel output than to mess around with a config file. > > 3. Less reliance on 3rd parties. There are definitely benefits to > having 3rd party tools (mixers, audio players, MIDI routing apps, and > so on). But I think there need to be more complete examples of these > shipped with ALSA itself. Maybe appropriate the best of the 3rd party > apps and officially incorporate them into ALSA? As a user, it's very > irritating to be told, "Oh, go download this package, and this > package, and this package, and this package, and this package, and > this package," all for functionality that's present in other OSes by > default. > > Basically, we don't want to make Linux and ALSA as easy to configure > and use as Mac OS or Windows. We want it to be EASIER. Right now, > it's not as easy to use as the other options but why even settle for > being pretty good? We should go forth and destroy the competition! > :-) > > Now, I anticipate this question: "So what are YOU doing about it? You > can't criticize if you aren't doing anything." I'm not much of a > programmer yet. I've started playing with it but I am NOT that > knowledgable yet. I'm learning and I'll try to help some. That's not > my fault and that doesn't mean I don't have any valuable ideas. Also, > I'm not telling anybody what to do, only offering the truth that I've > seen. You don't have to listen to me, even though I really wish you > would. ------------------------------------------------------- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
