Hi all,
 
Below is the message I put in Linux Forum early on asking for help but that was under Mandrake 2006 distribution and now FC5.
Yes, I was so naive to move between kernels and thought that the problem would have gone.
I did actually install 1.0.11rc5 driver +lib_utils in Mandrake's but after installation I still couldn't find where the snd-riptide is
supposed to locate. But now I have no trace of this anymore as I said I had removed the Mandrake 2006 distribtion.
Now,  since you guys mentioned that it is the manufacturer problem not to write a module to support Linux.
Since I am novice to Linux, does it mean that there is no solution and I have to stay without sound if I am interested to
use FC-5 ?
 
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I was running Mandrake Linux 2006 distrbution(free) consisting of 3 disks
>> without great problem except without
>> sound. Dual-boot option with Window Xp Prof smoothly. But after
>> installed it gives no sound in Linux. But there
>> is no sound problem in Window Xp Prof.
>> I need your advice.
>>
>>
>> I am giving you the following info:
>>
>>
>> My desktop specs:
>>
>> HP Pavilion Celeron 466Mhz 128MB DIMM
>> sound hardware on board
>> video graphic onbaord
>> Hdd 40GB
>>
>> $lsmod
>>
>> indicated no snd-x drivers installed
>>
>>
>>
>> $cat /proc/asound/version
>>
>> showed Alsa version installed
>> Advanced Linux found Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9b
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> $ cat / proc/asound/cards
>>
>>
>> ---showed no sound card----
>>
>>
>>
>> When Linux bootup, building processes showed 2 errors in [FATAL] flags
>>
>> 1. Starting ALSA version 1.0.9b: (riptide) start servicce sound
>> (Y)/(N)/(C) ? (Y)
>> Loading sound module(snd-riptide) FATAL: Module snd-riptide not found
>> Fatal: Error running install command for snd-riptide [Fatal]
>>
>>
>> Alsactl: save-state:1163:No soundcards found...
>>
>> Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state-tmp: No such file or directory [Fatal]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tried using Mandrake Control Center auto-hardware detection showed sound
>> information as:
>>
>> Name: Riptide Audio Device
>> showed driver used: snd-riptide
>> However, Linux returned with error while initialising the sound driver:
>>
>> Device /dev/dsp can't be opened( no such file or directory)
>>
>> When inspecting /dev there sn't any dsp file existed.
>>
>>
>>
>> $lspci |grep -i audio
>> showed audio controller Rockwell International Riptide PCI Audio
>> Controller
>>
>>
>>
>> I have also tried to download; alsa-driver-0.4.1e.tar.gz
>> alsa-lib-0.4.1d.tar.gz and alsa-utils-0.4.1.tar.gz and followed
>> instruction to install.
>> But met error while installing alsa-lib-0.4.1d ./configure :
>> configure:error:install alsa-driver-v0.30pre5+package first...
>> However i tried to look for v0.30 on your ftp site not found this
>> version.
>>
>>
>>
>> Furthermore, i could not locate the exact manufcaturer of soundcard in
>> your Alsa sound card driver pages so cannot really load the right
>> driver. What should I do?
>>
>>More info:

#lspcidrake -v/fgrep AUDIO
returned: Rockwell SemiconductorsSystem/Master Riptide PCI Audio
Controller(Multimedia Audio)

#grep sound-slot/etc/modprobe.conf
returned: alias sound-slot-0 snd-riptide

#/sbin/lsmod
returned: snd-riptide not loaded but only snd-0


#chkconfig --list sound
returned: sound service is configured to be run in init-level 3 sound 3:ON

#chkconfig --list alsa
returned: alsa 3:ON

#find /lib/modules/ -name snd-riptide\*
it returned nothing. I saw there is only 2.6.12-12mdk in that directory.

In addition, I used #modprobe snd-riptide
returned : Module snd-riptide not found

>>
>> Lastly the bottom line is the system could not detect a soundcard.--- it
>> always showed no soundcard found.
>>
>> Pls suggest ways of fixing this problem and thanks in advance.

>>
>>
 
 
 
Best regards,
 
 
 

Claude YU
 
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sergei Steshenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill Unruh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Claude Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though soundcard(onbard) detected

> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:21:41 -0700 (PDT)
> Bill Unruh <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Claude Yu wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Clemens,
>> >
>> >
>> > After installing FC-5 distribtion and booting up in dual boot mode gracefully. It is great. however,
>> > something has made me feel so outrageous similarly to the fate of installing Mandrake 2006 -- No sound!
>>
>> I hope that you did not change distributions in order to get that sound.
>> Changing distributions will do nothing for you if both use older versions
>> of alsa. At least in Kenrel 2.6.12 the also is too old.
>>
>> You need to download alsa 1.0.11, making sure that you have the eknrel
>> source installed, and compile it and install it to gt the riptide module.
>>
>> > I found either kernel unable to load sound modules to support its sound.
>> > The soundchip(on board) has been detected as Rockwell Semiconductor PCI Audio Controller and it requires
>> > snd-riptide driver. However,  I have checked the kernel now(FC-5) does not have module to support this.
>>
>> What is the kernel number? What is alsa (cat /proc/asound/version) version?
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I have checked:
>> > /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.2054_FC5/kernel/sound/pci
>> >
>> > has NO snd-riptide driver but only other drivers.
>> >
>> > As I am a novice Linux user, I heard about building a new kernel to support it or configure a loadable modules. Either
>>
>> YOu need to compile alsa 1.0.11 Do not try to compile your kernel.
>>
>> > way has no way to start with. Of course simple approach is always best, I don't mind to try a harder way but need some advice to start with.
>> > Furthermore,  while trying some commands like:
>> > make config, make menuconfig ...
>> > It returned with missing parameters... so forth.
>>
>> And when you report errors, please report them exactly. This kind of vague
>> statement gives us nothing to help you with.
>>
>> > FC-5 command mode not accept though I have installed the Development Tool during package installation.
>>
>> ??
>>
>> > I really need your advice to get me sound back as
>> > normal as running in Window XP Pro in the same system.
>>
>> Since Windows runs the soundcard using drivers supplied by the
>> manufacturer, write the manufacturer to ask why they did not write a module
>> for Linux.  Then try the new alsa.
>>
>>
>> > Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
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>
> The latest KNOPPIX has pretty new ALSA and kernel - see
>
>
ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/packages-dvd.txt :
>
> ii  alsa-base                1.0.11-1                 ALSA driver configuration files
> ii  alsa-utils               1.0.11-2                 ALSA utilities
> ii  linux-image-2.6.17       2.6.17-10.00.Custom      Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.17
> ii  linux-kernel-headers-kno 0.5-2                    Symlinks to unpackaged Kernel header files for KNOPPIX
> ii  linux-sound-base         1.0.11-1                 base package for ALSA and OSS sound systems
> .
>
> The beauty of KNOPPIX-like distributions is that you can run them from CD/DVD
> without installation and kernel compilation, so it's really easy and quick to
> try.
>
>
>
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