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On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Kelly Leahy <kelly.p.le...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Personally, I think the following happened:
> 1) the first ALT.NET seattle meeting was SPECTACULAR and led a number
> of us attendees (Justin, myself, Chris Bilson, Bobby, Tim, etc., etc.
> - no offense to anyone I'm not mentioning) to want more and try to
> form a local group.
> 2) many of us that formed the initial local group were energized both
> by the excitement from the large event and the fact that we were
> meeting new "like-minded" individuals in our local area that I think
> most of us didn't know.
> 3) the first year or so of meetings following the original (April
> 2007?) event were "get to know the rest of the group" and "share ideas
> of how we personally like to do things", and "learn from others"
> meetings.
> 4) after a bit more than a year, we largely knew one another, didn't
> have a lot of new people showing up at the meetings (actually, I think
> we had way more attrition than newcomers in that first year), and I
> would bet that most of us could probably start to predict what each
> other would say on the miriad topics discussed at the typical monthly
> meetings.
> 5) we had another couple attempts at a big successful event (to mixed
> reviews) but I think most people would agree that we never really had
> another large event that lived up to the expectations we had after
> that first one.  This was despite excellent efforts from Justin,
> Glenn, etc. to try to reproduce the "magic".
> 6) by 2 or 3 years in, we still didn't have all that many newcomers,
> and the attrition had gotten really high.  In large part, you wouldn't
> expect to see more than about 15 people on a good monthly meeting, and
> some had less than 5 of us.  There were some newcomers for sure, but
> not enough to replace the people that stopped coming.
> 7) at this point, I can't speak for other people, but I can say for
> myself I almost expect to be able to predict the topics that will be
> discussed, and if the people I expect to be at the meeting are
> actually there, I'd bet I could even predict 90% of the conversation.
> I think this is a testament to how clearly we have shared our views
> and how dedicated many of us are to our beliefs - I don't think
> there's anything wrong with this, it's just that we've already learned
> most of our point of views!
>
> I personally have greatly enjoyed this group, and hope to get back to
> hosting the annual BBQ even if we don't have any meetings anymore :)
>
> I feel like I have personally gained a great deal from this group both
> in terms of learning, opening my mind to some of the ideas of ALT.NET,
> and of course the pool from which to hire coworkers!  Most of you know
> that many of the ALT.NET originals have worked at my company now (or
> are still working at my company) and I love working with most of them
> too!  My entire team is made up of people I met through ALT.NET and
> we've built an amazing product together that I'm very proud of.
>
> I'd love to think that ALT.NET will continue, but I'm not sure that it
> can unless there is an influx of new people and some new ideas to talk
> about (and our lives get less busy somehow!).  Personally, I think
> sharing some of the things my team does would be very interesting, but
> I don't really know how / when to do that given my schedule and our
> other personal obligations...
>
> Sorry for the long email - this stuff just comes out when we start
> talking about ALT.NET!
>
> Kelly
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Dave Foley <davidmfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This group, despite having a number of very smart people and some of the
> > best programmers I know, has withered to the point that it contains only
> a
> > few announcements and some job spam that the moderators delete
> periodically.
> > The monthly meetups are a thing of the distant past. Basically, the
> group is
> > dead.
> >
> > What happened to it?
> >
> > Did it go mainstream? Are the ideas of ALT.NET so accepted at most
> > organizations that this group is unnecessary?
> >
> > Did we all just leave for non-.NET technologies? Did disgust with
> webforms
> > and the like lead to the abandonment of Windows altogether?
> >
> > Was it subsumed by Software Craftsmanship or some other "movement"?
> >
> > Did it just get boring?
> >
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