hmmm...interesting. Well I consider profanity to be rude, every time, all the time. If you are vulgar, then you are rude, no second thoughts about that.
I have carefully maintained my machine (no screamer to be sure, just a 1gig with 384M ram) on a gentoo distro for several years. Following gentoo's recommendations, I pared down the locale's to the bare essentials. (since gentoo compiles everthing, this means a lot with my resources). Thankfully, the machine runs like a top and I cannot fault it (except I would love it to be more powerful!) I am absolutely not frustrated with Vivia, who has been kind and helpful (thank you Vivia). I am currently pursuing this with the tk group, I'll report the results back here. Thanks to one and all! On 1/20/06, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1 - you were rude, no second thoughts about that > 2 - what profanities from "the previous poster" ???* > 3 - I prefer to be vulgar when needed than to be rude when not needed.. it > is said that being polite is simply another way of being hypocrite > 4 - frustration should go to : > a) your machine > b) yourself for f***-ing up your machine > c) yourself for not wanting to try a solution that was proposed by our > team > d) Xfree/Xorg/Tk for not correctling supporting systems with a > f***-ed up > locales system > 5 - frustration should not go to : > a) someone doing his/her best to try to help you > b) someone who didn't do anything wrong (for now, I'm watching you > Vivia > :P) > c) someone who would have done everything necessary to fix the > problem if > it was fixable from our end > 5 - problem might be from Tk, might be from X, but it's mainly coming from > your PC.. > 6 - http://tcl.tk + http://tktoolkit.sf.net > 7 - ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] && # fix my system's locales setup! > 8 - bye > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:30:57 -0500, Gerald Britton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My apologies to those who feel that I answered harshly. I suppose my > > frustration came through. At least I did not resort to profanities in > > the manner of the previous poster (I do not use such profanity in my > > speech and certainly not in writing. It is simply not appropriate.) > > > > I am also quite thankful for the support I have received from this > > list. While it has not yet resolved my fundamental problem, it has > > certainly been educational. For that, I am grateful. > > > > Now I would very much like to pursue this issue with the tk group. > > Can anyone point me in their direction? > > > > On 1/20/06, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm a bit surprised by the 'harshness' of this thread... > >> let me summarize it : > >> 1 - a user xxxx's up his PC and asks for help > >> 2 - we try everything to help him as much as possible > >> 3 - it didn't work > >> 4 - we found out his pc is not 'normal' and ask him to install what HAS > >> to > >> be installed > >> 5 - he clearly doesn't care, answers harshly, thinks it's our fault, > >> we're > >> the evil guys, we should burn in hell > >> 6 - we still answer him kindly > >> conclusion : someone who has to remove those locals to avoid an 8 hours > >> compilation should clearly spend a little 50$ to buy the cheapest PC on > >> earth which would probably be 100 times faster than his current one > >> (50$ can be earned in less time that you need to compile amsn on your > >> PC)... that same person should learn how to be grateful, say > >> thanks/sorry > >> for bothering/whatever, that same person should learn how to talk to > >> people, and stop being an ass and accusing us of being the evil people > >> ripping apart his world.. that same person should also know that if he > >> doesn't use a whatever locale, it doesn't mean someone else doesn't, and > >> if someone else does and he's in contact with him through a messaging > >> program, he should not expect everything to work right away... he should > >> also know that when there is an X problem, he should go ask for help > >> (not > >> yell) at X devels, not amsn devels (all solutions that WE provided (out > >> of > >> courtesy) were related to your system being fucked up and to X server > >> being misconfigured, in order to give you support on avoiding to have X > >> crash, no solution involved playing around with amsn itself.. didn't he > >> notice that???) > >> out of luck, I must go.. but I'd like to give this thread to someone > >> with > >> psychology training and I'd like to get a full analysis of the situation > >> and of that person who has no human behavior... > >> > >> summary of the summary : get a life and be nice to others! > >> > >> KaKaRoTo > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:55:09 -0500, Vivia Nikolaidou > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Gerald Britton wrote: > >> > > >> >> amsn must respect the locale I set (via LC_ALL= or LANG=). It has no > >> >> business trying to use any others. At the very least it should query > >> >> locale availability (locale -a) before trying to use them. > >> > > >> > it's not amsn, it's tk, i repeat........ :( > >> > > >> >> "Just giving it a try" will, in my case, result in an eight-hour > >> >> compile job to try to circumvent a clear application bug. > >> > > >> > OK, go and ask the tk people then. Nothing we can do about it I guess. > >> > > >> > BTW, I am not sure that this is the cause of your problem, I am just > >> > guessing... There were also some solutions on forums, try to search > >> for > >> > those. > >> > > >> > Vivia > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- > >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > >> > files > >> > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > >> > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. 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