Fair enough - I don't use it, and I think I'd got entirely the wrong
end of the stick on what it's for! If it's intended to stop tracking
by third-party sites then it certainly seems to be of little relevance
here.

(It might be worth clarifying this in the proposal, in case a future
ethics-committee reviewer gets the same misapprehension?)

Andrew.

On 13 January 2015 at 20:24, Aaron Halfaker <ahalfa...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> I think it is reasonable to assume that the "Do not track" header isn't
> referring to this.
>
> From http://donottrack.us/ with emphasis added.
>>
>> Do Not Track is a technology and policy proposal that enables users to opt
>> out of tracking by websites they do not visit, [...]
>
>
> Do not track is explicitly for third party tracking.  We are merely
> proposing to count those people who do access our sites.  Note that, in this
> case, we are not interested in obtaining identifiers at all, so the word
> "track" seems to not apply.
>
> It seems like we're looking for something like a "Do Not Log Anything At
> All" header.  I don't believe that such a thing exists -- but if it did I
> think it would be good if we supported it.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Andrew Gray <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dario, Reid,
>>
>> This seems sensible enough and proposal #3 is clearly the better
>> approach. An explicit opt-in opt-out mechanism would not be worth the
>> effort to build and would become yet another ignored preferences
>> setting after a few weeks...
>>
>> A couple of thoughts:
>>
>> * I understand the reasoning for not using do-not-track headers (#4);
>> however, it feels a bit odd to say "they probably don't mean us" and
>> skip them... I can almost guarantee you'll have at least one person
>> making a vocal fuss about not being able to opt-out without an
>> account. If we were to honour these headers, would it make a
>> significant change to the amount of data available? Would it likely
>> skew it any more than leaving off logged-in users?
>>
>> * Option 3 does releases one further piece of information over and
>> above those listed - an approximate ratio of logged in versus
>> non-logged-in pageviews for a page. I cannot see any particular
>> problem with doing this (and I can think of a couple of fun things to
>> use it for) but it's probably worth being aware.
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>> On 13 January 2015 at 07:26, Dario Taraborelli
>> <dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> > Iā€™m sharing a proposal that Reid Priedhorsky and his collaborators at
>> > Los Alamos National Laboratory recently submitted to the Wikimedia 
>> > Analytics
>> > Team aimed at producing privacy-preserving geo-aggregates of Wikipedia
>> > pageview data dumps and making them available to the public and the 
>> > research
>> > community. [1]
>> >
>> > Reid and his team spearheaded the use of the public Wikipedia pageview
>> > dumps to monitor and forecast the spread of influenza and other diseases,
>> > using language as a proxy for location. This proposal describes an
>> > aggregation strategy adding a geographical dimension to the existing dumps.
>> >
>> > Feedback on the proposal is welcome on the lists or the project talk
>> > page on Meta [3]
>> >
>> > Dario
>> >
>> > [1]
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pageviews
>> > [2] http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pcbi.1003892
>> > [3]
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pageviews
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