I would say it's not only the 30%, but the fact that Google is too slow in implementing app sales globally. I am not aware how hard it is to do it globally, but it is not hard to implement app sales within Europe.(I've actually had a lot of informal discussion with the best accounting lawyers and accountants in several countries)
I live in one of the smaller countries in EU and I don't expect to be able to sell or even buy apps for a long time on the AM. And that annoys me a lot! So reading the market agreement, I have to go through all sort of hoops just to earn anything on the AM. And for buying stuff I have to get a SIM from another country. And they wonder why some people say that Android is not easy to use... On 26 фев, 08:24, HeyYouThere <newsome...@gmail.com> wrote: > So as of right now, the major app lookout is subject to removal -- but > won't be removed because Google selectively enforces it's TOS. They > collect your CC directly into the application. I'm not trying to rag > on them, but the facts, are facts. > > Since using PayPal would probably just get the app removed once google > realized they weren't getting their 30% -- Is it a violation to to use > the google checkout web api for subscriptions-- building that into the > app? > > Thanks everyone for taking the time to try and help me with this. It's > an absolute shame we have NO OFFICIAL SUPPORT to direct these > questions toward. > > On Feb 25, 9:53 pm, rich friedel <rich.frie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > unless your special like Slacker Radio and run the subscription through the > > carrier! > > > i personally dont agree with that double standard... > > On Feb 25, 2011 10:28 PM, "Zsolt Vasvari" <zvasv...@gmail.com> wrote:> > > In-app billing doesn't support the subscriptions model: > > >http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe... > > > > So, yes, I'd say if you are selling an app with subscriptions, you are > > > violating the TOS and your app is subject to removal. > > > > On Feb 26, 10:36 am, davemac <davemac...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Google announced in-app billing. Seehttp:// > > > developer.android.com/guide/market/billing/index.html. > > > >> - dave > > > >> On Feb 25, 9:26 pm, rich friedel <rich.frie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > didn't they just do an update to the market which allows in-app > > billing? > > >> > On Feb 25, 2011 9:16 PM, "HeyYouThere" <newsome...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > Thank you for your reply. Here's what I don't understand: > > > >> > > Lookout - They have you enter your payment information directly into > > >> > > the app -- taking a credit card payment for their subscription > > service > > > >> > > Google does not support this yet in the market...So do you think I am > > >> > > SOL? > > > >> > > On Feb 25, 7:39 pm, Zsolt Vasvari <zvasv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > >> I am no lawyer, but AFAIK you CANNOT take any 3rd party payments in > > an > > >> > >> app marketed through the Google Android Market. This is not against > > >> > >> PayPal per se and it's fair otherwise what would stop you from > > >> > >> offering a "free" app and then charge the user outside of the > > Market, > > >> > >> thus not giving Google their 30% cut? Of course, as opposed to > > >> > >> Apple, you have the option to sell your app on your own or on > > >> > >> alternate markets and do whatever you want. > > > >> > >> If you have a subscription tied into your app, and you are not > > giving > > >> > >> Google their cut, you could certainly wake up one morning and find > > >> > >> your app pulled -- and rightly so. > > > >> > >> On Feb 25, 2:53 pm, HeyYouThere <newsome...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> > Well, > > > >> > >> > I am a developer and I understand that you guys have this thing > > lately > > >> > >> > where you will randomly pull apps...Even ones that have been there > > >> > >> > since Genesis 1:1. > > > >> > >> > Anywho, I have a subscription tied into my app, and I am > > wondering, IF > > >> > >> > I WILL WAKE UP AND FIND MY SUPENDED PULLED BECAUSE I USE THE > > PAYPAL > > >> > >> > ANDROID API FOR SUBSCRIPTION PAYMENTS? > > > >> > >> > Quote: > > >> > >> > ======================================== > > >> > >> > 3.3 You may also choose to distribute Products for free. If the > > >> > >> > Product is free, you will not be charged a Transaction Fee. You > > may > > >> > >> > not collect future charges from users for copies of the Products > > that > > >> > >> > those users were initially allowed to download for free. This is > > not > > >> > >> > intended to prevent distribution of free trial versions of the > > Product > > >> > >> > with an "upsell" option to obtain the full version of the Product: > > >> > >> > Such free trials for Products are encouraged. However, if you want > > to > > >> > >> > collect fees after the free trial expires, you must collect all > > fees > > >> > >> > for the full version of the Product through the Payment Processor > > on > > >> > >> > the Market. In this Agreement, "free" means there are no charges > > or > > >> > >> > fees of any kind for use of the Product. All fees received by > > >> > >> > Developers for Products distributed via the Market must be > > processed > > >> > >> > by the Market's Payment Processor. > > >> > >> > =========================================== > > > >> > >> > Now while this IS clearly written, an app called Visual Voicemail > > was > > >> > >> > pulled after two years of being on the market...500k + downloads, > > 10k+ > > >> > >> > ratings, and a high ranking, and all that -- they sold additional > > >> > >> > addons thru their site I believe. > > > >> > >> > So I am confused, and since Google support seems to only respond > > every > > >> > >> > lunar eclipse, I have to post this question here. 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