Is there even a place where you can send a free-form e-mail for
support at all????  I can't find it, all I see are prepackaged
questions.



On Feb 27, 7:26 pm, "JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin)" <jalex...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> It does apply, because the Market team just does not reply with
> explanations. Plain and simple. There is literally no way of knowing
> if what I do for my local users to be able to buy will result in the
> app being pulled without notice.
>
> I do sell. But with the slowness of market penetration, I have
> registered a company in another country to be able to sell.(I am
> fortunate that I can register a company in another country with ease)
> I can sell easily, but I cannot buy anything...
>
> By the looks of it there is no "developer relations" people in the
> market team whatsoever. And the developers are the ones that make the
> market something valuable.
>
> On 26 фев, 17:26, rich friedel <rich.frie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So then how does all of this apply to you?
>
> > According to what you just said your application isn't even being sold on
> > the market thus you need not worry about it being removed for going through
> > a third-party vendor or accepting payment without including Google in the
> > process.
>
> > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:47 AM, JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin) <
>
> > jalex...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I would say it's not only the 30%, but the fact that Google is too
> > > slow in implementing app sales globally.
> > > I am not aware how hard it is to do it globally, but it is not hard to
> > > implement app sales within Europe.(I've actually had a lot of informal
> > > discussion with the best accounting lawyers and accountants in several
> > > countries)
>
> > > I live in one of the smaller countries in EU and I don't expect to be
> > > able to sell or even buy apps for a long time on the AM. And that
> > > annoys me a lot!
>
> > > So reading the market agreement, I have to go through all sort of
> > > hoops just to earn anything on the AM. And for buying stuff I have to
> > > get a SIM from another country.
> > > And they wonder why some people say that Android is not easy to use...
>
> > > On 26 фев, 08:24, HeyYouThere <newsome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > So as of right now, the major app lookout is subject to removal -- but
> > > > won't be removed because Google selectively enforces it's TOS. They
> > > > collect your CC directly into the application. I'm not trying to rag
> > > > on them, but the facts, are facts.
>
> > > > Since using PayPal would probably just get the app removed once google
> > > > realized they weren't getting their 30% -- Is it a violation to to use
> > > > the google checkout web api for subscriptions-- building that into the
> > > > app?
>
> > > > Thanks everyone for taking the time to try and help me with this. It's
> > > > an absolute shame we have NO OFFICIAL SUPPORT to direct these
> > > > questions toward.
>
> > > > On Feb 25, 9:53 pm, rich friedel <rich.frie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > unless your special like Slacker Radio and run the subscription 
> > > > > through
> > > the
> > > > > carrier!
>
> > > > > i personally dont agree with that double standard...
> > > > > On Feb 25, 2011 10:28 PM, "Zsolt Vasvari" <zvasv...@gmail.com> wrote:>
> > > In-app billing doesn't support the subscriptions model:
>
> > > > >http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe.
> > > ..
>
> > > > > > So, yes, I'd say if you are selling an app with subscriptions, you
> > > are
> > > > > > violating the TOS and your app is subject to removal.
>
> > > > > > On Feb 26, 10:36 am, davemac <davemac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> Google announced in-app billing. Seehttp://
>
> > > > > developer.android.com/guide/market/billing/index.html.
>
> > > > > >> - dave
>
> > > > > >> On Feb 25, 9:26 pm, rich friedel <rich.frie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > didn't they just do an update to the market which allows in-app
> > > > > billing?
> > > > > >> > On Feb 25, 2011 9:16 PM, "HeyYouThere" <newsome...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > Thank you for your reply. Here's what I don't understand:
>
> > > > > >> > > Lookout - They have you enter your payment information directly
> > > into
> > > > > >> > > the app -- taking a credit card payment for their subscription
> > > > > service
>
> > > > > >> > > Google does not support this yet in the market...So do you 
> > > > > >> > > think
> > > I am
> > > > > >> > > SOL?
>
> > > > > >> > > On Feb 25, 7:39 pm, Zsolt Vasvari <zvasv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> I am no lawyer, but AFAIK you CANNOT take any 3rd party
> > > payments in
> > > > > an
> > > > > >> > >> app marketed through the Google Android Market.  This is not
> > > against
> > > > > >> > >> PayPal per se and it's fair otherwise what would stop you from
> > > > > >> > >> offering a "free" app and then charge the user outside of the
> > > > > Market,
> > > > > >> > >> thus not giving Google their 30% cut?   Of course, as opposed
> > > to
> > > > > >> > >> Apple, you have the option to sell your app on your own or on
> > > > > >> > >> alternate markets and do whatever you want.
>
> > > > > >> > >> If you have a subscription tied into your app, and you are not
> > > > > giving
> > > > > >> > >> Google their cut, you could certainly wake up one morning and
> > > find
> > > > > >> > >> your app pulled -- and rightly so.
>
> > > > > >> > >> On Feb 25, 2:53 pm, HeyYouThere <newsome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > >> > Well,
>
> > > > > >> > >> > I am a developer and I understand that you guys have this
> > > thing
> > > > > lately
> > > > > >> > >> > where you will randomly pull apps...Even ones that have been
> > > there
> > > > > >> > >> > since Genesis 1:1.
>
> > > > > >> > >> > Anywho, I have a subscription tied into my app, and I am
> > > > > wondering, IF
> > > > > >> > >> > I WILL WAKE UP AND FIND MY SUPENDED PULLED BECAUSE I USE THE
> > > > > PAYPAL
> > > > > >> > >> > ANDROID API FOR SUBSCRIPTION PAYMENTS?
>
> > > > > >> > >> > Quote:
> > > > > >> > >> > ========================================
> > > > > >> > >> > 3.3 You may also choose to distribute Products for free. If
> > > the
> > > > > >> > >> > Product is free, you will not be charged a Transaction Fee.
> > > You
> > > > > may
> > > > > >> > >> > not collect future charges from users for copies of the
> > > Products
> > > > > that
> > > > > >> > >> > those users were initially allowed to download for free. 
> > > > > >> > >> > This
> > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > >> > >> > intended to prevent distribution of free trial versions of
> > > the
> > > > > Product
> > > > > >> > >> > with an "upsell" option to obtain the full version of the
> > > Product:
> > > > > >> > >> > Such free trials for Products are encouraged. However, if 
> > > > > >> > >> > you
> > > want
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> > >> > collect fees after the free trial expires, you must collect
> > > all
> > > > > fees
> > > > > >> > >> > for the full version of the Product through the Payment
> > > Processor
> > > > > on
> > > > > >> > >> > the Market. In this Agreement, "free" means there are no
> > > charges
> > > > > or
> > > > > >> > >> > fees of any kind for use of the Product. All fees received 
> > > > > >> > >> > by
> > > > > >> > >> > Developers for Products distributed via the Market must be
> > > > > processed
> > > > > >> > >> > by the Market's Payment Processor.
> > > > > >> > >> > ===========================================
>
> > > > > >> > >> > Now while this IS clearly written, an app called Visual
> > > Voicemail
> > > > > was
> > > > > >> > >> > pulled after two years of being on the market...500k +
> > > downloads,
> > > > > 10k+
> > > > > >> > >> > ratings, and a high ranking, and all that -- they sold
> > > additional
> > > > > >> > >> > addons thru their site I believe.
>
> > > > > >> > >> > So I am confused, and since Google support seems to only
> > > respond
> > > > > every
> > > > > >> > >> > lunar eclipse, I have to post this question here. Anyone 
> > > > > >> > >> > with
> > > any
> > > > > >> > >> > info, please do share.
>
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