Part of the problem of the old menu button was that it was impossible to 
tell ahead of time whether it would do anything at all.  There's nothing 
wrong with having items hidden off-screen (in many cases you want to do 
exactly that), the problem came from not knowing there was anything there. 
 By having the on-screen overflow menu affordance, the user is made aware 
that there is more they can do on this screen without having to guess.

On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:48:41 AM UTC-7, yvolk wrote:
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> On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:59:49 PM UTC+4, Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) 
> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:05 AM, yvolk wrote: 
>> > In the "Sync" screen of the "Accounts and Sync" 
>>
>> There is no "Accounts and Sync" on Jelly Bean in Settings, so I do not 
>> know what you are referring to. 
>>
> Mark, I'm comparing two versions of Android: v.4.0.4 does have this 
> submenu. In v.4.1. instead of selecting "Accounts and Sync" you have to 
> select the name of the "Groups of accounts" e.g. "Email". Further select 
> exact account - and you're on the "Sync screen".
> I've tried this in the emulator trying to disable hardware buttons:
> Yes, as you describe for the Chrome browser, here hardware "Menu" button 
> is being replaced with soft "Action overflow" button, but they act exactly 
> the same way: open the same list of options , initially hidden from a User .
> So technically it's really a new way to open "List of actions" but in fact 
> it is implemented as a pure replacement of hardware button with soft button 
> having other name ("Action overflow") to open the same "Options menu" 
> (without "grid choices") :-(
>

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