Hi Nicolas, I'm using your app on my personal phone, but I kill apps from the Task Bar widget, so I chose carefully which one I want to kill, but most users are using the other widget which only displays the number of apps running and kills all (except system apps and those on ignore list) of them if clicked. Well I guess the only thing I can do is warn my users about this...
On Oct 13, 6:50 pm, Nicolas Thibaut <nthibau...@gmail.com> wrote: > :) > I am the taskiller developper. > > If an user choose to kill your app. Your app may not be restarted. > > Users are using taskiller because too more apps have bad implemention > of broadcasters. > Too many apps are launching without user action, like uninstalled > widgets, because they receive > Broadcast and dont verify the effective use of the app. > Too many apps are implementing Start on boot when not needed. > > With taskiller, users are checking that too many apps are loaded on > startup and 50% of these apps are not useful at startup....(like > meeboo,facebook,.. ) > > Too many apps are not explaining what they do. If your apps are using > background service, inform the user that the app will stay > in background, and maybe the users will not kill "stupidly" your app. > > And the bad news is that others task managers are implementing > autokill.... or Boot kill....which can made many apps crashing (if > your app use an intents to another app...if this app is autokilled > your app will never worl :( ... > > On Oct 13, 1:09 am, Lazarus 101 <lazarus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks Dianne for the quick answer. > > > ActuallyTasKilleris not automatically killing apps, but it has a > > widget that allows users to kill (almost) all apps with one click. > > Most of the Android users that I know are using something similar > > toTasKillerso this is a tricky problem, users will blame my app for not > > doing what it says it does. > > I saw there is a PACKAGE_RESTARTED broadcast but obviously the > > restarted package does not receive the notification so there's not > > much I can do to "fix" this problem... > > > Having applications that can affect the functionality of every other > > apps installed on the system is not such a good idea IMHO. A Task > > Manager is needed but the user should be clearly informed that the > > apps he choses to kill are not working anymore because that's exactly > > what he wanted. Also the permission is called "restart other > > application" it should be "kill other applications", that's why I > > thought alarms are not affected by this and that services are getting > > restarted (I saw services being restarted after crashes or after being > > killed due to lack of memory so I though it's the same behaviour when > > calling ActivityManager.restartPackage). > > > On Oct 12, 11:22 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote: > > > > That is intentional. Stopping an application is there for the user to > > > stop > > > everything associated with it -- processes, alarms, services, > > > notifications, > > > etc. They will not be restarted until someone explicitly does so > > > (typically > > > this would be the user re-launching the app and having it do the > > > appropriate > > > thing). > > > > It sounds likeTasKilleris abusing this API. The API is there for the user > > > to explicitly stop an app from running without going to the most extreme > > > measure of uninstalling the app. Trying to use it to automatically stop > > > things behind the user's back seems... questionable, and probably not > > > what > > > the user actually wants. > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Lazarus 101 <lazarus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I have an app that does some polling every 2 hours. I set a repeating > > > >alarmthat starts a service but I have noticed that if I use some task > > > > manager (e.g.TasKiller) to kill my app then the polling will not be > > > > performed from that moment on. I know this because I store the time of > > > > the last poll, I have also checked the server logs and there are no > > > > requests received from the client after I force close my app. > > > > Is this the way alarms work or should I look somewhere else for a > > > > crash or smth? because if alarms really get canceled then how should > > > > we implement the polling? > > > > > I'm also interested in what happens with a running service if it gets > > > > killed from another app (I assume all task managers are using > > > > ActivityManager.restartPackage() to kill other apps), does it get > > > > restarted? > > > > -- > > > Dianne Hackborn > > > Android framework engineer > > > hack...@android.com > > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to > > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such > > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see > > > and > > > answer them. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
