I would think the same thing. Maybe it's the google market that doesn't report it? I had asked about this some time ago, for those selling apps and making their 70%, at tax time do they get some 1099 or something, and several said no. So I am unclear as to how the market handles taxes... as well, if you do micro transactions in your app, where you charge $1 for some virtual item, using paypal/google, who take a cut, how is that handled? Does google/paypal send in info on how much was paid to you.. that is not clear to me at all.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Dan Sherman <impact...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would very seriously suspect that they report it. I remember having to > give a social-security/tax-id to Adsense when signing up. And just thinking > through their tax predicament (bringing in tons of money, and seeing a lot > of it go straight back out), they're going to need to keep records, and > report as to where that money went out to. Mostly so they don't have to pay > taxes on it (was your profits, not theirs). > > - Dan > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Well, yes, you *should* report it.. but if google and admob and so forth >> don't report anything to the IRS, then it's basically on good faith. There >> isn't presently any way for them to track how much you make. I would imagine >> eventually something will come into play. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> wrote: >> >>> I'll chime in on this. I have switched from admob to mobclix recently. >>> (actually I can control which one I use base on a network check) I have >>> noticed my CTR jump from around 2-3 a day to around 7. This makes me more >>> inclined to hang with them. But I only changed after I watch admob drop >>> from around 7 a day to 1-2. Now 150 a day is my new goal ;-) But I figure >>> if I can bring in 100 a month or so it's still better than nothing. >>> >>> As for the IRS thing this is all income and it will need to be reported >>> in some way. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Abdul Mateen <abmat...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yes Really Moto $150/day is a damn good income from Ads, I am only >>>> making $1-$2/day , and I am using Admob + Greystripe.. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am interested in this as well. First, Moto.. $150 a day? Holy crap! >>>>> I'd love to have that much 7 days a week coming in. That would supplement >>>>> my >>>>> income nicely. :) Second, slightly off topic, but directly related to >>>>> revenue.. with that much coming in, or say even more if you had like >>>>> $1000 a >>>>> day coming in, what do you do about income taxes? I was told by some that >>>>> google doesn't send any money making info to IRS.. so essentially there is >>>>> no way for IRS or any tax/government to track how much you make. I am >>>>> probably a long ways off from earning $1 a day.. but I am curious how you >>>>> handle this issue. Is it on faith that you pay taxes... and mind you, you >>>>> can shoot a private email if this is something that you wouldn't want to >>>>> make public. :) I am not trying to cheat the IRS out of money by any >>>>> means.. >>>>> I would rather be legit... but am interested in how this is done. Living >>>>> in >>>>> California I already lose half my paycheck to taxes between state and >>>>> federal. >>>>> >>>>> The ads that are done in games, don't they have to be clicked on to >>>>> earn money? You said you have 60,000 users, do a lot of them click the ads >>>>> while playing a game? Or even in a splash screen or game-over screen? Or >>>>> do >>>>> you earn money just by showing the ad? I would hope both.. clicks == more >>>>> money, showing == very little. But if you get nothing from displaying the >>>>> ad.. that seems ridiculous... because you are advertising for that ad.. >>>>> the >>>>> user is seeing that ad.. even if they don't click it, it may trigger them >>>>> later to look it up, etc. If you do make some money off of each ad >>>>> displayed... how does it work? I mean, you could write a robot app that >>>>> made >>>>> it seem like 10's of 1000's of people were at least seeing the ad. There >>>>> must be some way that admob and others avoid "cheating" and losing money. >>>>> >>>>> Lastly, I thought things like admob required an ad all the time? You >>>>> can control when/where you display it? I thought admob was a small banner >>>>> ad >>>>> at the bottom of the screen all the time.. and it's sdk/api controlled how >>>>> often an ad was displayed? What level of control do you have over say.. >>>>> putting ads during game play, or just on the splash screen and >>>>> end-game/high >>>>> score screens? As well, how targeted are the ads? Do you send data to >>>>> admob >>>>> about the user playing the game that helps them target ads? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Ahmed majaat <amaj...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> try this, >>>>>> http://www.aditic.com/demo, it may helps you to improve your CTR and >>>>>> Revenue. >>>>>> >>>>>> They have more ad formats, splashscreen, interstial, 2/3 banner, >>>>>> strech banner and more for Android. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just for your information I used intro/splashscreen Banner and >>>>>> retractable banner, my CTR is around 0.67. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ahmed, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 16, 2:22 am, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> wrote: >>>>>> > There is AdWhirl that will allow you to serve up from different >>>>>> providers. >>>>>> > I have not tried it yet but since I have both admob, which was doing >>>>>> very >>>>>> > well for me, and Mobclix I may try to do them both. I found it >>>>>> interesting >>>>>> > that while keeping the ad rotation interval the same between the two >>>>>> I was >>>>>> > serving around 30K impression with mobclix and about 17K with admob. >>>>>> > My CTR on admob was significantly higher. Now that I switched back >>>>>> to admob >>>>>> > I found a "glitch" that I had not noticed before and wonder if my >>>>>> mobclix >>>>>> > CTR could have been better. Its actually encouraging to know that >>>>>> at >>>>>> > least some money is being made out there. I racked up 48 bucks for >>>>>> the >>>>>> > last week in january and have about twice as many users now so I'm >>>>>> waiting >>>>>> > to see if my glitch has been fixed. Now another topic that would >>>>>> fun to >>>>>> > discuss is how the heck do you get users to update?! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Moto <medicalsou...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > > Yes, I believe this very much concerns developers because most of >>>>>> the >>>>>> > > time, based on this revenue, it is what makes a developer want to >>>>>> > > continue developing... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Yahel, I also believe that applications shouldn't abuse the user >>>>>> with >>>>>> > > ads. I believe that ads should be carefully placed to flow with >>>>>> the >>>>>> > > application. That's what I do currently. My current CTR is >>>>>> really >>>>>> > > low. 0.05% and I'm still making on avg $150 per day. The app's >>>>>> got >>>>>> > > around 60,000 users... and I use Quattro Wireless... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Now my apps CTR seems low cause we request an add on every >>>>>> activity >>>>>> > > and this lowers our effectiveness to display ads, that's why the >>>>>> low >>>>>> > > CTR. So I'm looking at better ways to improve it... 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