I include both Jars and query my server on which ads to show. I default to Admob = false. This way if my query fails I get Mobclix. The key is to place both ads in the same location and use the enabled and visible methods.
As for the accounting I'm sure they have to show who they are transferring the cash to. I don't think the IRS would let them use any blatant methods that look like money laundering. I'm not an accountant but I do run my own business's and that method of accounting would trigger an audit really quick for a company the size of google. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Abdul Mateen <abmat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think I should also do this, i.e switch from Admob ---> QW or Mobclix. If > even I made 50 per day it would be enough...but yes how to force user to > update ? I have more than 10k active installs. > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dan Sherman <impact...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would imagine their tax lines look something like this: >> >> Client --> Google :: $1.00 >> Google --> Developer :: $0.70 >> >> Google's taxable income: $0.30 >> >> Note that they don't explicitly tell the government "We paid XXX to >> developer Y", they just note that the money left their hands, and that they >> shouldn't be taxed on it. Essentially, its your responsibility to mention >> that you received the money. If they wanted to track that cash, should be >> very easy to see :) >> >> - Dan >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I would think the same thing. Maybe it's the google market that doesn't >>> report it? I had asked about this some time ago, for those selling apps and >>> making their 70%, at tax time do they get some 1099 or something, and >>> several said no. So I am unclear as to how the market handles taxes... as >>> well, if you do micro transactions in your app, where you charge $1 for some >>> virtual item, using paypal/google, who take a cut, how is that handled? Does >>> google/paypal send in info on how much was paid to you.. that is not clear >>> to me at all. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Dan Sherman <impact...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I would very seriously suspect that they report it. I remember having >>>> to give a social-security/tax-id to Adsense when signing up. And just >>>> thinking through their tax predicament (bringing in tons of money, and >>>> seeing a lot of it go straight back out), they're going to need to keep >>>> records, and report as to where that money went out to. Mostly so they >>>> don't have to pay taxes on it (was your profits, not theirs). >>>> >>>> - Dan >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, yes, you *should* report it.. but if google and admob and so >>>>> forth don't report anything to the IRS, then it's basically on good faith. >>>>> There isn't presently any way for them to track how much you make. I would >>>>> imagine eventually something will come into play. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'll chime in on this. I have switched from admob to mobclix >>>>>> recently. (actually I can control which one I use base on a network >>>>>> check) >>>>>> I have noticed my CTR jump from around 2-3 a day to around 7. This >>>>>> makes me >>>>>> more inclined to hang with them. But I only changed after I watch admob >>>>>> drop from around 7 a day to 1-2. Now 150 a day is my new goal ;-) But I >>>>>> figure if I can bring in 100 a month or so it's still better than >>>>>> nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As for the IRS thing this is all income and it will need to be >>>>>> reported in some way. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Abdul Mateen <abmat...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes Really Moto $150/day is a damn good income from Ads, I am only >>>>>>> making $1-$2/day , and I am using Admob + Greystripe.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Duffey >>>>>>> <andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am interested in this as well. First, Moto.. $150 a day? Holy >>>>>>>> crap! I'd love to have that much 7 days a week coming in. That would >>>>>>>> supplement my income nicely. :) Second, slightly off topic, but >>>>>>>> directly >>>>>>>> related to revenue.. with that much coming in, or say even more if you >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> like $1000 a day coming in, what do you do about income taxes? I was >>>>>>>> told by >>>>>>>> some that google doesn't send any money making info to IRS.. so >>>>>>>> essentially >>>>>>>> there is no way for IRS or any tax/government to track how much you >>>>>>>> make. I >>>>>>>> am probably a long ways off from earning $1 a day.. but I am curious >>>>>>>> how you >>>>>>>> handle this issue. Is it on faith that you pay taxes... and mind you, >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> can shoot a private email if this is something that you wouldn't want >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> make public. :) I am not trying to cheat the IRS out of money by any >>>>>>>> means.. >>>>>>>> I would rather be legit... but am interested in how this is done. >>>>>>>> Living in >>>>>>>> California I already lose half my paycheck to taxes between state and >>>>>>>> federal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The ads that are done in games, don't they have to be clicked on to >>>>>>>> earn money? You said you have 60,000 users, do a lot of them click the >>>>>>>> ads >>>>>>>> while playing a game? Or even in a splash screen or game-over screen? >>>>>>>> Or do >>>>>>>> you earn money just by showing the ad? I would hope both.. clicks == >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> money, showing == very little. But if you get nothing from displaying >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> ad.. that seems ridiculous... because you are advertising for that >>>>>>>> ad.. the >>>>>>>> user is seeing that ad.. even if they don't click it, it may trigger >>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>> later to look it up, etc. If you do make some money off of each ad >>>>>>>> displayed... how does it work? I mean, you could write a robot app >>>>>>>> that made >>>>>>>> it seem like 10's of 1000's of people were at least seeing the ad. >>>>>>>> There >>>>>>>> must be some way that admob and others avoid "cheating" and losing >>>>>>>> money. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lastly, I thought things like admob required an ad all the time? You >>>>>>>> can control when/where you display it? I thought admob was a small >>>>>>>> banner ad >>>>>>>> at the bottom of the screen all the time.. and it's sdk/api controlled >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> often an ad was displayed? What level of control do you have over say.. >>>>>>>> putting ads during game play, or just on the splash screen and >>>>>>>> end-game/high >>>>>>>> score screens? As well, how targeted are the ads? Do you send data to >>>>>>>> admob >>>>>>>> about the user playing the game that helps them target ads? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Ahmed majaat <amaj...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> try this, >>>>>>>>> http://www.aditic.com/demo, it may helps you to improve your CTR >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> Revenue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They have more ad formats, splashscreen, interstial, 2/3 banner, >>>>>>>>> strech banner and more for Android. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just for your information I used intro/splashscreen Banner and >>>>>>>>> retractable banner, my CTR is around 0.67. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ahmed, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2:22 am, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > There is AdWhirl that will allow you to serve up from different >>>>>>>>> providers. >>>>>>>>> > I have not tried it yet but since I have both admob, which was >>>>>>>>> doing very >>>>>>>>> > well for me, and Mobclix I may try to do them both. I found it >>>>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>>>> > that while keeping the ad rotation interval the same between the >>>>>>>>> two I was >>>>>>>>> > serving around 30K impression with mobclix and about 17K with >>>>>>>>> admob. >>>>>>>>> > My CTR on admob was significantly higher. Now that I switched >>>>>>>>> back to admob >>>>>>>>> > I found a "glitch" that I had not noticed before and wonder if my >>>>>>>>> mobclix >>>>>>>>> > CTR could have been better. Its actually encouraging to know >>>>>>>>> that at >>>>>>>>> > least some money is being made out there. I racked up 48 bucks >>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>> > last week in january and have about twice as many users now so >>>>>>>>> I'm waiting >>>>>>>>> > to see if my glitch has been fixed. Now another topic that >>>>>>>>> would fun to >>>>>>>>> > discuss is how the heck do you get users to update?! >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Moto <medicalsou...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > > Yes, I believe this very much concerns developers because most >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> > > time, based on this revenue, it is what makes a developer want >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> > > continue developing... >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > Yahel, I also believe that applications shouldn't abuse the >>>>>>>>> user with >>>>>>>>> > > ads. I believe that ads should be carefully placed to flow >>>>>>>>> with the >>>>>>>>> > > application. That's what I do currently. My current CTR is >>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>> > > low. 0.05% and I'm still making on avg $150 per day. The app's >>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>> > > around 60,000 users... and I use Quattro Wireless... >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > Now my apps CTR seems low cause we request an add on every >>>>>>>>> activity >>>>>>>>> > > and this lowers our effectiveness to display ads, that's why >>>>>>>>> the low >>>>>>>>> > > CTR. So I'm looking at better ways to improve it... Like I >>>>>>>>> asked >>>>>>>>> > > possibly using 2 different ad agencies. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > -Moto >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > On Mar 15, 5:02 pm, Yahel <kaye...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > > > Sorry John but I do not agree. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > Android Discuss seems there to discuss any general Android >>>>>>>>> topic : The >>>>>>>>> > > > device or it's use, not developer stuff. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > This ads thing does only concern developers, doesn't it ? >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > Yahel >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>> > > Groups "Android Developers" group. >>>>>>>>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> android-developers@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> <android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>> > Writing code is one of few things >>>>>>>>> > that teaches me I don't know everything. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Make Call Girl Manager great! 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