I donot think so I have 10K install base but still with admob I am getting arround $2/day.. it should be $10 /day. Can any one suggest me what should I do to raise the revenue.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> wrote: > With a 60K install base I could see $150 a day. My figures reflect my > measly install base of less than 3K. > > On the whole tax aspect I guess I never considered that my time and effort > as well as the cost of anything related to the production of the app could > be written off. Of course I leave the taxes to my wife who's more capable > in that regard. It will make for a fun tax time next year that is for > sure. > > Wayne > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Warren <warrenba...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just for clarification, did you really intend to type $150, or did you >> mean $1.50? If you really meant $150, great! But since other people >> report incomes in the single-digit dollar range, I thought perhaps it >> was a typo. Either way, it would be good to know. >> >> >> On Mar 31, 1:10 pm, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > It is income, so you ought to report it to the IRS. The fact Google >> > doesn't send your income-details to the IRS (and it doesn't send you a >> > 1099), doesn't mean it's exempt from taxes... we can wish, though. And >> > who knows, the IRS may be able to figure it out when you get an audit. >> > And i think there's a $600 minimum limit before you need to report it. >> > >> > However, i think that for most of us, this is just a hobby. This means >> > that you can directly deduct expenses (e.g. computer, phone, etc). >> > However, for hobby-income, you can't deduct more than your income on >> > your hobby (e.g. for a photography hobby: deduct all of the costs of >> > your expensive DSLR and your nice lenses and selling just one picture, >> > that's not possible) >> > >> > BTW, i'm not a tax-man :) >> > >> > On Mar 31, 12:18 pm, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Wayne et all,... >> > >> > > read more » >> > >> > > I agree.. it would look strange that they are giving that much money >> in >> > > transactions to individuals, but where do we find out about this? Some >> of >> > > you are selling apps... what are you doing to deal with income taxes? >> When >> > > you signed up to publish your app, were you required to give some sort >> of >> > > business tax id, or your social and some other info so that they know >> who >> > > you are and can send info to IRS? Where is the info that explains >> this? I >> > > want to be legit, but hey, if there is no process I don't mind not >> losing >> > > half of that 70% to the IRS. :D I already pay way too much in taxes. >> > >> > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> >> wrote: >> > > > I include both Jars and query my server on which ads to show. I >> default to >> > > > Admob = false. This way if my query fails I get Mobclix. The key >> is to >> > > > place both ads in the same location and use the enabled and visible >> methods. >> > >> > > > As for the accounting I'm sure they have to show who they are >> transferring >> > > > the cash to. I don't think the IRS would let them use any blatant >> methods >> > > > that look like money laundering. I'm not an accountant but I do >> run my >> > > > own business's and that method of accounting would trigger an audit >> really >> > > > quick for a company the size of google. >> > >> > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Abdul Mateen <abmat...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > >> I think I should also do this, i.e switch from Admob ---> QW or >> Mobclix. >> > > >> If even I made 50 per day it would be enough...but yes how to force >> user to >> > > >> update ? I have more than 10k active installs. >> > >> > > >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dan Sherman <impact...@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> > >> > > >>> I would imagine their tax lines look something like this: >> > >> > > >>> Client --> Google :: $1.00 >> > > >>> Google --> Developer :: $0.70 >> > >> > > >>> Google's taxable income: $0.30 >> > >> > > >>> Note that they don't explicitly tell the government "We paid XXX >> to >> > > >>> developer Y", they just note that the money left their hands, and >> that they >> > > >>> shouldn't be taxed on it. Essentially, its your responsibility to >> mention >> > > >>> that you received the money. If they wanted to track that cash, >> should be >> > > >>> very easy to see :) >> > >> > > >>> - Dan >> > >> > > >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Kevin Duffey < >> andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > > >>>> I would think the same thing. Maybe it's the google market that >> doesn't >> > > >>>> report it? I had asked about this some time ago, for those >> selling apps and >> > > >>>> making their 70%, at tax time do they get some 1099 or something, >> and >> > > >>>> several said no. So I am unclear as to how the market handles >> taxes... as >> > > >>>> well, if you do micro transactions in your app, where you charge >> $1 for some >> > > >>>> virtual item, using paypal/google, who take a cut, how is that >> handled? Does >> > > >>>> google/paypal send in info on how much was paid to you.. that is >> not clear >> > > >>>> to me at all. >> > >> > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Dan Sherman < >> impact...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > > >>>>> I would very seriously suspect that they report it. I remember >> having >> > > >>>>> to give a social-security/tax-id to Adsense when signing up. >> And just >> > > >>>>> thinking through their tax predicament (bringing in tons of >> money, and >> > > >>>>> seeing a lot of it go straight back out), they're going to need >> to keep >> > > >>>>> records, and report as to where that money went out to. Mostly >> so they >> > > >>>>> don't have to pay taxes on it (was your profits, not theirs). >> > >> > > >>>>> - Dan >> > >> > > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Duffey < >> andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > > >>>>>> Well, yes, you *should* report it.. but if google and admob and >> so >> > > >>>>>> forth don't report anything to the IRS, then it's basically on >> good faith. >> > > >>>>>> There isn't presently any way for them to track how much you >> make. I would >> > > >>>>>> imagine eventually something will come into play. >> > >> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Wayne Wenthin < >> wa...@fuligin.com>wrote: >> > >> > > >>>>>>> I'll chime in on this. I have switched from admob to mobclix >> > > >>>>>>> recently. (actually I can control which one I use base on a >> network check) >> > > >>>>>>> I have noticed my CTR jump from around 2-3 a day to around 7. >> This makes me >> > > >>>>>>> more inclined to hang with them. But I only changed after I >> watch admob >> > > >>>>>>> drop from around 7 a day to 1-2. Now 150 a day is my new goal >> ;-) But I >> > > >>>>>>> figure if I can bring in 100 a month or so it's still better >> than nothing. >> > >> > > >>>>>>> As for the IRS thing this is all income and it will need to be >> > > >>>>>>> reported in some way. >> > >> > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Abdul Mateen < >> abmat...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > > >>>>>>>> Yes Really Moto $150/day is a damn good income from Ads, I am >> only >> > > >>>>>>>> making $1-$2/day , and I am using Admob + Greystripe.. >> > >> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Duffey < >> andjar...@gmail.com >> > > >>>>>>>> > wrote: >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> I am interested in this as well. First, Moto.. $150 a day? >> Holy >> > > >>>>>>>>> crap! I'd love to have that much 7 days a week coming in. >> That would >> > > >>>>>>>>> supplement my income nicely. :) Second, slightly off topic, >> but directly >> > > >>>>>>>>> related to revenue.. with that much coming in, or say even >> more if you had >> > > >>>>>>>>> like $1000 a day coming in, what do you do about income >> taxes? I was told by >> > > >>>>>>>>> some that google doesn't send any money making info to IRS.. >> so essentially >> > > >>>>>>>>> there is no way for IRS or any tax/government to track how >> much you make. I >> > > >>>>>>>>> am probably a long ways off from earning $1 a day.. but I am >> curious how you >> > > >>>>>>>>> handle this issue. Is it on faith that you pay taxes... and >> mind you, you >> > > >>>>>>>>> can shoot a private email if this is something that you >> wouldn't want to >> > > >>>>>>>>> make public. :) I am not trying to cheat the IRS out of >> money by any means.. >> > > >>>>>>>>> I would rather be legit... but am interested in how this is >> done. Living in >> > > >>>>>>>>> California I already lose half my paycheck to taxes between >> state and >> > > >>>>>>>>> federal. >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> The ads that are done in games, don't they have to be >> clicked on to >> > > >>>>>>>>> earn money? You said you have 60,000 users, do a lot of them >> click the ads >> > > >>>>>>>>> while playing a game? Or even in a splash screen or >> game-over screen? Or do >> > > >>>>>>>>> you earn money just by showing the ad? I would hope both.. >> clicks == more >> > > >>>>>>>>> money, showing == very little. But if you get nothing from >> displaying the >> > > >>>>>>>>> ad.. that seems ridiculous... because you are advertising >> for that ad.. the >> > > >>>>>>>>> user is seeing that ad.. even if they don't click it, it may >> trigger them >> > > >>>>>>>>> later to look it up, etc. If you do make some money off of >> each ad >> > > >>>>>>>>> displayed... how does it work? I mean, you could write a >> robot app that made >> > > >>>>>>>>> it seem like 10's of 1000's of people were at least seeing >> the ad. There >> > > >>>>>>>>> must be some way that admob and others avoid "cheating" and >> losing money. >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> Lastly, I thought things like admob required an ad all the >> time? >> > > >>>>>>>>> You can control when/where you display it? I thought admob >> was a small >> > > >>>>>>>>> banner ad at the bottom of the screen all the time.. and >> it's sdk/api >> > > >>>>>>>>> controlled how often an ad was displayed? What level of >> control do you have >> > > >>>>>>>>> over say.. putting ads during game play, or just on the >> splash screen and >> > > >>>>>>>>> end-game/high score screens? As well, how targeted are the >> ads? Do you send >> > > >>>>>>>>> data to admob about the user playing the game that helps >> them target ads? >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Ahmed majaat < >> amaj...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> try this, >> > > >>>>>>>>>>http://www.aditic.com/demo, it may helps you to improve >> your CTR >> > > >>>>>>>>>> and >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Revenue. >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> They have more ad formats, splashscreen, interstial, 2/3 >> banner, >> > > >>>>>>>>>> strech banner and more for Android. >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Just for your information I used intro/splashscreen Banner >> and >> > > >>>>>>>>>> retractable banner, my CTR is around 0.67. >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> Ahmed, >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2:22 am, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> >> wrote: >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > There is AdWhirl that will allow you to serve up from >> different >> > > >>>>>>>>>> providers. >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > I have not tried it yet but since I have both admob, >> which was >> > > >>>>>>>>>> doing very >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > well for me, and Mobclix I may try to do them both. I >> found it >> > > >>>>>>>>>> interesting >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > that while keeping the ad rotation interval the same >> between the >> > > >>>>>>>>>> two I was >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > serving around 30K impression with mobclix and about 17K >> with >> > > >>>>>>>>>> admob. >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > My CTR on admob was significantly higher. Now that I >> switched >> > > >>>>>>>>>> back to admob >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > I found a "glitch" that I had not noticed before and >> wonder if >> > > >>>>>>>>>> my mobclix >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > CTR could have been better. Its actually encouraging >> to know >> > > >>>>>>>>>> that at >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > least some money is being made out there. I racked up >> 48 bucks >> > > >>>>>>>>>> for the >> > > >>>>>>>>>> > last week in january and have about twice as many users >> now so >> > >> > ... >> > >> > read more » >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Android Developers" group. >> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >> >> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. >> > > > > -- > Writing code is one of few things > that teaches me I don't know everything. > > Make Call Girl Manager great! > Join the forums. > http://www.fuligin.com/forums > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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