Hi Michael,

On Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 9:38 AM Michael Richardson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> 1. We reference RFC3261 when we first say reference SIP.
> I don't think we need more reference than that.
>
>
Really?

I think the best resolution is this Michael:
SIP [RFC3261] Phones.

2. SIP Phones, printers, and Internet Routers are examples of devices that
>    fit into the categoey of IoT devices.  They have limited or no user
>    interface, they have limited (control plane/user) processing power,
>    limited memory, and are not desktops.
>
> Yes, SIP phones often have screens and buttons, but not that you'd want an
> end user to toggle in a base64 PEM encoded certificate into.
>
> BRSKI-CLOUD addresses application onboarding more than networking
> onboarding,  so the match to wired SIP phones is much better than for other
> large appliances that might be Wi-Fi, and need network onboarding (as
> well).
> One could use another onboarding protocol (DPP, EAP-NOOB, EAP-TEEP,
> the not-yet-defined BRSKI-TEEP...) to get on the network, and then use
> BRSKI-CLOUD to connect to do application onboarding.  This is what some
> Thread ecosystems do, with work going back to 2018, for instance.
>
> If you have some specific text you want to suggest, please send PR.
>
>
Yes, please put the above text in some form into the draft. No PR.

Behcet

> --
> Michael Richardson <[email protected]>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
>
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