Hi Nick,
Not really, I think you're reading a different text ... I'm not intending to
ask RIPE to verify if the operators resolve the abuse cases.
The point here is to amend the existing policy to do a *good* validation of the
abuse mailbox.
The actual policy only makes a "technical" validation, so it checks that the
mailbox exists and is the right one and allows sending abuse reports, and
that's it.
If the mailbox is full, if it is never read, if it belongs to a /dev/null or
not the right person or team, even if it if you have my email in your abuse-c,
all that, passes the validation.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 15/1/20 13:14, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Nick Hilliard"
<anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net en nombre de n...@foobar.org> escribió:
Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 15/01/2020 08:24:
> So the extra work is what, 10 minutes / year, if the system is setup
> properly?
Serge,
The policy proposal here is: if the registry doesn't comply, then it is
in explicit violation of RIPE policies.
According to the "Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet
Resources and Legacy Internet Resources" document (currently RIPE
716), if you don't comply with RIPE policies or RIPE NCC procedures,
then the RIPE NCC is obliged to follow up with the resource holder and
if they continue not to comply, then the number resources will be withdrawn.
The purpose behind RIPE-716 is to ensure accurate registration of number
resources, which the core function of the RIPE registry.
Jordi has confirmed that the intention behind 2019-04 is to force
resource holders to comply with the abuse handling procedures defined in
his policy, and that if they don't comply for whatever reason, that
their number resources are withdrawn under the terms of RIPE-716.
To be clear, deregistration of resources would make it difficult or
impossible for almost any holder of addresses to continue their business.
So what's being proposed here is that RIPE-716 - whose purpose was to
ensure integrity and accuracy of the the RIPE registry - should now be
repurposed as a mechanism to enforce social behaviour practices on the
Internet.
There are some pretty serious and fundamental problems with this.
Many of these problems were discussed in the context of RIPE policy
2019-03 ("Resource Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation"), and some of
them were formally addressed in the RIPE NCC review of that policy.
Nick
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