Bastiaan wrote:

>>First I tried Netscape and it failed for the 'security program' in Net-
scape was out of date... uploading and installing a recent version just 
gave a hell lot of trouble and no succes.<<

I have had the same problem with Netscape's security certificate expiring 
December 31, 1999.  My solution was to set the computer date to sometime in 
1999.  The program will give an error message concerning the difference in 
dates between your computer and the computer on the other end of the line, 
but by hitting "Continue", Netscape goes merrily on its way.  (This is what I 
had to do to subscribe to Freewwweb.)

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona  USA

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