On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 05:53:28PM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public wrote: > On 3/31/20 12:36 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> On 3/30/20 6:35 AM, Chih-Hsuan Yen via arch-dev-public wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:26:11AM +0200, Frederik Schwan via >>> arch-dev-public wrote: >>>> We received a Feature Request today to remove fontconfig and >>>> xorg-mkfontscale dependencies from our font packages according to our own >>>> font packaging guidelines [0]. >>>> >>>> I discussed with Eli on #archlinux-bugs and we think it's a no-brainer but >>>> before creating a TODO we'd like to ask for your opinions first. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> [0] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/66012 >>>> >>> Just as a reference - in another similar feature request [1], Doug >>> Newgard mentioned that not everyone agrees on removing fontconfig and/or >>> xorg-mkfontscale. I believe the following two mails in the mentioned >>> arch-dev-public thread are most relevant: [2][3]. >>> >>> Having said that, I agrees on removing fontconfig & xorg-mkfontscale. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Chih-Hsuan Yen >>> >>> [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/59164 >>> [2] >>> https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2016-April/027946.html >>> [3] >>> https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2016-April/027948.html >> >> heftig, City-busz, could you elaborate on just what this means? All I >> see there is mention that "it ensures the hooks are available", but that >> simply says "it needs to be installed for the sake of being installed". >> Is there an underlying reason here? >> >> Note that regardless of whether a font package depends on fontconfig, >> and regardless of whether you have any fonts installed, the fontconfig >> post_install and post_upgrade scripts run fc-cache --really-force during >> install time and on every single pkgver or pkgrel update, and then if >> fonts are installed it runs *again* at the end of the transaction. It's >> impossible to have fontconfig installed and *not* have the fontconfig cache. >> >> xorg-mkfontscale does the same thing to run >> /usr/share/libalpm/scripts/xorg-mkfontscale but in post_install only. > > Since there were no objections after several months and the bug reporter > is asking for a status update, I will assume the objection from 2016 no > longer applies. I'll create a TODO for this later tonight. > > -- > Eli Schwartz > Bug Wrangler and Trusted User >
Hi Eli, I saw the new TODO has been created. Thanks a lot for that! Just one question: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/66012 also mentions xorg-font-utils. Should that be removed from dependencies as well? Best, Chih-Hsuan Yen
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