On 6/25/20 11:29 PM, Chih-Hsuan Yen via arch-dev-public wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 05:53:28PM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-dev-public > wrote: >> On 3/31/20 12:36 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote: >>> On 3/30/20 6:35 AM, Chih-Hsuan Yen via arch-dev-public wrote: >>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:26:11AM +0200, Frederik Schwan via >>>> arch-dev-public wrote: >>>>> We received a Feature Request today to remove fontconfig and >>>>> xorg-mkfontscale dependencies from our font packages according to our own >>>>> font packaging guidelines [0]. >>>>> >>>>> I discussed with Eli on #archlinux-bugs and we think it's a no-brainer >>>>> but before creating a TODO we'd like to ask for your opinions first. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> [0] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/66012 >>>>> >>>> Just as a reference - in another similar feature request [1], Doug >>>> Newgard mentioned that not everyone agrees on removing fontconfig and/or >>>> xorg-mkfontscale. I believe the following two mails in the mentioned >>>> arch-dev-public thread are most relevant: [2][3]. >>>> >>>> Having said that, I agrees on removing fontconfig & xorg-mkfontscale. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Chih-Hsuan Yen >>>> >>>> [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/59164 >>>> [2] >>>> https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2016-April/027946.html >>>> [3] >>>> https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2016-April/027948.html >>> >>> heftig, City-busz, could you elaborate on just what this means? All I >>> see there is mention that "it ensures the hooks are available", but that >>> simply says "it needs to be installed for the sake of being installed". >>> Is there an underlying reason here? >>> >>> Note that regardless of whether a font package depends on fontconfig, >>> and regardless of whether you have any fonts installed, the fontconfig >>> post_install and post_upgrade scripts run fc-cache --really-force during >>> install time and on every single pkgver or pkgrel update, and then if >>> fonts are installed it runs *again* at the end of the transaction. It's >>> impossible to have fontconfig installed and *not* have the fontconfig cache. >>> >>> xorg-mkfontscale does the same thing to run >>> /usr/share/libalpm/scripts/xorg-mkfontscale but in post_install only. >> >> Since there were no objections after several months and the bug reporter >> is asking for a status update, I will assume the objection from 2016 no >> longer applies. I'll create a TODO for this later tonight. >> >> -- >> Eli Schwartz >> Bug Wrangler and Trusted User >> > > > Hi Eli, > > I saw the new TODO has been created. Thanks a lot for that! Just one > question: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/66012 also mentions > xorg-font-utils. Should that be removed from dependencies as well?
It is a "Transitional package depending on xorg font utilities", the
package has no contents and simply
depends=('xorg-bdftopcf' 'xorg-mkfontdir' 'xorg-mkfontscale'
'xorg-font-util')
Not sure why it exists still TBH, but I'd venture to say it should be
removed too, yes...
e.g. why drag in a recursive dependency on xorg-bdftopcf in this day and
age?
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Eli Schwartz
Bug Wrangler and Trusted User
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