On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:40 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:25 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote: >> Fairness. Free trade is and must be a two-way street. Don't have that >> if we let someone pay lip service to free trade and then act as a >> proxy for a third party who's gaming the system. > > Bill - > > Could you elaborate? A party X in ARIN region wishes to transfer to > party Y in region “R”. You wish to predicate ARIN’s ability to process > such a transfer on whether or not other parties in region “R” are allowed > to transfer to folks in the ARIN region?
Hi John, Plus recursion. I don't want to see Y in R acting as a proxy for Z in S in order to evade S's noncompliance. If we're going to permit ARIN region resources to be played on a global field, we've a right to at least insist it be a level field. > How is this fair to “X” or “Y”, > who simply are trying to get resources to where they are needed? Party X has no shortage of other candidate buyers while party Y can petition his registry to join the "free trade pact" if he finds fairness as desirable a trait as I do. Meanwhile parties A through W aren't placed at unfair disadvantaged by the behavior of Y's registry. >>> Is /25 "unusually small”? >> >> The nice thing about my way is that ARIN need never make that call. It >> need only warn registrants and then let them make the call. > > Registrants will make that call, but ISP’s have often looked to the RIRs > to take the lead in determining what block size makes sense, and then > made their routing decisions accordingly. I'm not sure that's how I'd characterize the _failed_ experiment at having ISPs set route filters based on the RIRs' specified minimum assignment size in a /8. The only filter size that stuck came from the number of bits in a class-C netmask, something the registries had nothing to do with. > In allowing smaller block sizes, > isn’t that an implicit endorsement that ISPs should consider routing such? I'm not sold on that argument but I don't dispute it either. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ [email protected] [email protected] Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
