Yes.. I support the intent of the draft. If I oppose, I will say so plainly and rarely bother word smithing it.
Owen > On Mar 10, 2026, at 14:19, Leif Sawyer via ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Owen DeLong <[email protected]> escribir: >>>> On Mar 9, 2026, at 10:49, Leif Sawyer via ARIN-PPML >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>> For clarification - RIPE uses “member of” in its definition of LIR. >>>> The thought was to try and bridge between multiple RIR definitions, and >>>> clearly show how LIRs are downstream of RIRs and nominally provide >>>> equivalent functionality whether or not they provide network connectivity >>>> services. Fortunately, it’s a work in progress. >>> >> >> In RIPE, all LIRs are members. This is not necessarily the case with some >> ARIN legacy LIRs that aren’t subject to an RSA. > > T'is sooth. "are you now, or have you ever been" gets trickier. You > did provide a couple of other examples. Hopefully those, or something else > will > bring enough clarity for consensus. > >> >> In RIPE, non-contract resource holders are not considered LIRs. >> > > An interesting note, as I didn't see that when looking, but I didn't check > everywhere for exemptions to the definition. Functional, rather than > contractual though. > >> >>> I do agree that “at a local level” is somewhat problematic when looking >>> only from the geographic center. But “local” can mean to a single >>> company diaspora as well – it’s just not *clear* from context that it’s >>> intended to read that way. >> >> Do you believe that the phrase (if clarified somehow) adds meaning or value >> to the policy? Personally, I think it is superfluous and merely deleting >> those words is the best course of action here. > > It's starter language to get people interested in forming the policy. I have > no connection to them either way, other than it was my hand that copied them > from one definition to this draft. > > But otherwise, with some minor editorials, you're in favor of the "flavor" > of the draft? > > > Leif Sawyer > GCI | he/him | Engineer IV, CNI – Standards and Planning > t: 907-351-1535 | w: https://www.gci.com | KL5BN > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
