I submitted a bug SW00250776 for this problem. That a user cannot use submitter 
mode locked to change the tickets they submitted without using a license 
because the server issues the license after login.

I think it's basically issueing the Floating(write) is issued at the time of an 
ARGetMenu API call

Thanks,
-Geoff

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sep 27, 2006 5:38 PM
>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Read (floating) license
>
>Hi, Misi:
>
>Hope you're doing OK.
>
>Is the operative word here "should" instead of "NOT"?
>
>I just performed a very simple test on the SHR:ConsolidatedList form, by
>opening it in submit mode.  There is no active link workflow on this
>form.  There is a single filter that fires on Submit, Modify and Merge.
>Wouldn't opening a form qualify as accessing the server?  
>
>Bottom line, as soon as I logged in, my test account showed up as
>Floating in both the Admin tool AND the User Log.  I have performed no
>actions other than placing the URL to the form in the browser, pressed
>enter and logged in.
>
>To the other point that was made.  I've also let the same form sit idle
>for over 10 minutes.  It is sitting idle as I type.  It still displays
>as Floating.  It has not been released according to the User Log.  If
>accounts were released after sitting idle for 5 - 10 minutes (gosh I
>wish; imagine the reduction in cost), there wouldn't be a Float License
>Timeout minimum setting of one hour.
>
>Maybe we should get Criss Angel from Mind Freak (US TV Reference) to
>figure this out for us.
>
>All that said, the behavior in your environment could be different.
>Here's mine:
>
>Win2003/IIS/6.0/Mid-Tier 7.0 P1
>Win2003/SQL Server 2000/ARS 6.3 P11
>WinXP Pro/Admin Tool 6.3 Special Support patch 12
>
>My two cents worth and minor test,
>Michelle
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:52 PM
>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Read (floating) license
>
>Aaron,
>
>I have recently had some communication with Doug Mueller, and you are
>almost right.
>
>Opening a form in Submit or Search mode should NOT grab a license,
>unless
>there is workflow that somehow contacts the server when the form is
>opened.
>
>There is a difference concerning the user log file, where users does not
>show up at all until they try to grab a licenses (i.e. by performing a
>search, triggering workflow that does a set-fields, etc.).
>
>        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>
>> As always with licensing it's somewhat vague, but my experience has
>been
>> this:
>>
>>
>>
>> When a user with a Floating license assigned to them logs in, they
>show
>> up in the User License list as Read(floating) immediately.
>>
>> -If they sit there without doing anything, they disappear from the
>User
>> License list after a short time (5-10 min)
>>
>> -If they open a form (in ANY mode), they are then listed as Floating.
>>
>> -If they log out, they disappear from the User License (no matter how
>> they were listed before)
>>
>> -If they are listed as floating and don't take any action for 1 hour,
>> they revert to Read(floating), and shortly thereafter disappear from
>the
>> list.
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as floating license token allocation, I tested our system with
>10
>> licenses, and found:
>>
>> -There could be more than 10 users marked as Read(floating) with no
>> problems.
>>
>> -When users opened any form, in query or submit mode, they changed to
>> Floating (and took a floating token)
>>
>> -Once there were 10 users marked Floating, then other users remained
>> marked as Read(floating) when quering or submitting.
>>
>> -Users marked as Read(floating) could not Modify while there were 10
>> others marked Floating.
>>
>> -When someone logged out, the next Read(floating) user to perform an
>> action (query, submit, or modify) was changed to Floating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Aaron
>>
>> * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Cleereman (IT)
>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:40 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Read (floating) license
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We're using ARServer 6.3, Patch 17.
>>
>> I'm using Manage User Licenses from the Admin Tool, with the following
>> options:
>>      License Category: Server
>>      Category: Current Licenses
>>      License Type: Floating
>>
>> I was seeing the following:
>>      Floating - 10 users
>>      Read (floating) - 2 users
>>
>> Another user who is assigned a Floating license just logged in, and I
>am
>> now seeing
>>      Floating - 10 users
>>      Read (floating) - 3 users
>>
>> I've double-checked our server licensing, and we have 25 AR User
>> Floating Licenses.
>>
>> I have the feeling I should know this, but it's a Monday, and I'm not
>> seeing it in the help file or my Admin Guide.
>>
>> Does anyone know why 3 of the users are showing a "Read (floating)"
>> instead of "Floating", when we should have 15 unused AR User Floating
>> licenses remaining?
>>
>> Eric Cleereman
>>
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