Jason,

Great stuff.


The license issues come in because you can have customers submit work log 
updates without a write license.  I believe SRM is setup that way or at least 
us to be if I'm not mistaken, so this would make a filter update a problem.  If 
I went the escalation route I would setup a qualification to say only update 
the last modified date if the work log submit date is newer than the incident 
last modified date.  For now we don't have customers adding work log entries, 
but we may down the road.  Not sure if we would at that time say date last 
updated by support versus date last updated by customer.


The challenge with the SQL route is going across various environments when 
porting code over (dev, test, prod).  The SQL code may or may not have to be 
redone.  We have multiple environments and multiple networks utilizing remedy.  
I do like direct SQL because a lot of times it is much faster depending on what 
you are doing.


I'm going to play around with a few of these in our dev environment and figure 
out which one works the best.


Brian


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From: ARSList <arslist-boun...@arslist.org> on behalf of Jason Miller 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:39:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Incident Last Updated

What kind of licensing issues are you thinking of? I probably would not create 
workflow around forcing an updated. That is a procedural issue, not a system 
issue (a common desire is to manage people via tech).

I haven't researched if this would have a negative affect in ITSM, but at my 
last job we built our own incident management and change management apps and I 
made sure to include a filter that would update the main ticket any time an 
associated work log records was created/updated so there wasn't a situation 
where the last modified date was older on the main ticket than a work log 
entry. These apps had the same basic structure as ITSM where there was a main 
record and related work log records (although audit and work log were all 
recorded in the same form so you could see the full life cycle of the ticket by 
looking at one table field / report). You want to consider this route if want 
simply look at the last modified date on the main record (assuming it wouldn't 
be updated by an escalation giving a false update).

Another thought is to have a SQL job that updates your custom field for 
capturing last user modified date. It would be pretty quick performance wise 
and wouldn't touch the core last modified by and last modified date fields. By 
doing this then you can add the custom field to consoles like you mention and 
allow for sorting by this value. Or you could use a combination of this custom 
field that captures only user update times with workflow on the work log record 
as mentioned in the last paragraph, many options here.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Brian Pancia 
<panc...@finityit.com<mailto:panc...@finityit.com>> wrote:

Jason - Thanks I was looking at that as a potential option too.  Of course the 
challenge with the work logs is licensing related issues.  I definitely want to 
make sure I don't kill all the functionality designed around the work logs with 
workflow forcing updates.  One thing I was looking at for the escalation route 
is so the users can see quickly the last time the ticket was updated, which can 
be used in the out of box consoles easily.  I may be able to use a display only 
field for that and do a join for backend reporting though.


Brian


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From: ARSList <arslist-boun...@arslist.org<mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org>> 
on behalf of Jason Miller 
<jason.mil...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.mil...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 1:55:52 PM
To: ARSList
Subject: Re: Incident Last Updated

I have seen these type of reports written against a join of HPD:WorkLog and 
HPD:HelpDesk. This way you do not need to modify any data (and in-turn you 
don't update the last modified date) like you would with an escalation.

Jason

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Brian Pancia 
<panc...@finityit.com<mailto:panc...@finityit.com>> wrote:

I'm looking at including the last date a ticket was updated either directly or 
through a work log entry.  My initial thought is to create an escalation that 
checks to see if the work log entry submit date is greater than the ticket last 
modified date and then update the ticket with that date and user in the last 
modified fields.  The goal is to be able to easily report on how many days 
since the ticket was updated.  I'm sure this has come up 1000 times.  Has 
anyone come up with other cool alternative methods?


Thanks,


Brian


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