Yes, the mid-tier is the layer through which authentication happens when a web 
service is used to resolve the ARS database...

Joe

----- Original Message ----
From: Jarl Grøneng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:03:53 AM
Subject: Re: Web Service Newbie


Here is a drawing showing how all are linked togheter...
http://www.bmc.com/arsystem/dev_community/images/T&T_2005/T&T%20September%2005/Primer_Large.jpg

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Jarl


On 3/19/07, Nall, Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Joe,
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>
>
> Thanks for the information. I was really just frying to confirm that this
> could not be done unless the Mid-Tier was installed. Which leads me to
> another question? Does it just have to be installed or do I really need to
> use it?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
> Roger A. Nall
>
> Manager, OSSNMS Remedy
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
>  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:24 PM
>  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>  Subject: Re: Web Service Newbie
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> Roger,
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>
>
> Not sure I understood you completely.. Are you saying they want you to
> attempt to create a web service using Remedy's Admin Tool but without
> setting up the Mid-Tier? If so that is not supported and not possible using
> Remedy's Admin tool to create a that web service.. When you create a web
> service through Remedy's Admin tool, the URL it generates expects you to
> insert the mid-tier's context path within it.
>
>
>
> Here is what a typical web service url looks like when created from the
> Admin tool:
>
> http://<Mid-Tier-Server>:<Port-Number>/mid-tier/WSDL/public/<AR-Server-Name/<Web-Service-Name>
>
>
>
> So as you would notice the request is communicated to the AR Server via the
> Mid-Tier.
>
>
>
> You could I'm sure write a web service independent of the mid-tier without
> using the AR Systems Admin tool, but in order to do that you would need to
> write your own web plugin to the ARS. And I wonder how much of that would be
> supported by Remedy support should you run into a problem..
>
>
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> Hope this helps...
>
>
>
> Joe
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> ----- Original Message ----
>  From: "Nall, Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:55:26 AM
>  Subject: Web Service Newbie
>
>  **
>
>
> Okay everyone please take it easy on me with this one. Here is my
> configuration:
>
> ARS 6.03 patch 16
> WINDOWS 2003
> SQL 2K
> No mid-tier
>
>
>
> We are creating a .NET help desk ticket application for our Engineering
> group. Currently they use Remedy but due to some personal issues the
> decision was made to move the Remedy application to a move advanced
> platform. Please do not ask any questions as to why this decision was made.
> My mother always told me if you can't say something nice about someone don't
> say anything at all.
>
>
>
> That being said we need to integrate Remedy with this new .NET system. I
> need to be able to create tickets in the new system and they need to be able
> to update my tickets as well as create tickets in Remedy. They have
> developed a Web Service for me to use to create tickets in the new system.
> As I understand it this will allow me to pass data to the new system and
> receive their ticket number back.
>
>
>
> We were originally going to user the .NET API to allow them to update/create
> tickets in my system. It was suggested to me that maybe we could use a Web
> Service created on the Remedy side instead of the API. I have been looking
> at the documentation for creating a Web Service and that has led me to this
> posting.
>
>
>
> My first question is how is this possible without using the Mid-Tier? As I
> stated, this is new to me and I am not sure I fully understand it. Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Roger A. Nall
>
> Manager, OSSNMS Remedy
>
> T-Mobile USA
>
> Desk: 813-348-2556(New)
>
> Cell: 973-652-6723
>
> FAX: 813-348-2565
>
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>
> RogerNall   Yahoo IM
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