Thanks.  I already knew what Eclipse is.

My point is, the description of it as "an IDE for everything and nothing
in particular" is key to my question.

Eclipse is used for all sorts of development environments, but to my
knowledge those are all *code-based* development environments--Java, C,
C++, PHP, Fortran, etc.

Unless BMC has some scripting language in the works for Remedy, the
Eclipse model would have to be heavily modified to accommodate Remedy's
unique (and oftentimes frustrating!) point-and-click application
development method.

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Norm,


The simplest (and IMHO the best) one line answer is this....

"
Eclipse is an "IDE for everything and nothing in particular"
"
( I use to see this on Eclipse's web site, but I can not find the
reference any more... )

An older ref:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-eclipse.html
"
The Eclipse Platform is designed for building integrated development
environments (IDEs). It can be used to create diverse end-to-end
computing solutions for multiple execution environments. This article
discusses the platform, and includes a list of questions and answers.
"

And some more modern updates: http://www.eclipse.org/home/newcomers.php
"
What is Eclipse?

Eclipse is an open source community whose projects are focused on
building an extensible development platform, runtimes and application
frameworks for building, deploying and managing software across the
entire software lifecycle. Many people know us, and hopefully love us,
as a Java IDE but Eclipse is much more than a Java IDE.
"

For example... if BMC decided to use the "Rich Client
Platform"(RCP)(http://www.eclipse.org/home/categories/rcp.php) they
they would have a ready to go framework that is advertised as:
"
Eclipse RCP is a platform for building and deploying rich client
applications. It includes Equinox, a component framework based on the
OSGi standard, the ability to deploy native GUI applications to a
variety of desktop operating systems, such as Windows, Linux and Mac
OSX and an integrated update mechanism for deploying desktop
applications from a central server.
"

So any application built using the RCP could (should) run on Windows
or Linux or Mac OSX without changes. (Yes that might be further
limited by any JNI layer that BMC might still be using. (However,
rumor is that might be gone by the time 7.5 comes around too.. :) )


HTH. But until we see how BMC did things... we will have no idea if
there will be opportunities for us to add to/improve/patch the new
Admin Tool. (I am hopeful, but only time will tell.)

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.


On Nov 2, 2007 2:27 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And could you tell us some more about its cool features? I guess I'm
confused about it being based on Eclipse.  Eclipse is primarily a Java
IDE and I don't see how that's going to work with Remedy's
point-and-click development method.

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