You are correct, Thomas, except that ITSM 7 doesn't use Entry IDs on the
Help Desk form the way we're used to.  I've seen this happen myself.
Technically, every Entry ID is represented by a record, but some are created
and discarded before they're viewable by anyone.  I didn't build it...

Rick

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Thomas Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ** Rick,
> This is NOT the normal, default behavior for a the Request ID assignment
> on a standard Remedy form.
>
> Unless there is workflow to get the next ID value prior to saving the
> entry, the default behavior is for the Request ID not to be assigned until
> the entry is initially saved.
>
> In the form properties, is 'Enable Next Request ID Block Size' checked?
> If so, what is the value for the Next Request ID Block Size?
>
> --Thomas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Newsgroups:* gmane.comp.crm.arsystem.general
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Control over Request ID
>
> ** Correct.  12346 was allocated, but was then discarded before it became
> a viewable Incident.
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Ganga Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ** Neel
> > Let me be bit more clearer. Lets say I have last request ID
> > 000000000012345.I am going ahead with a new ticket. I don't save the
> > ticket and cancel it.
> > Next I am creating a ticket and saving it then my new request ID will be
> > 000000000012347 instead of 000000000012346.
> >
> > My understanding behind this in above scenario is I tried to create a
> > instance of the ticket and the Next Reqest ID  is incremented by 1 and when
> > i again tried to create a ticket again the Next Reqest ID incremented by 1
> > and it gave me the number 000000000012347.
> >
> > Is this the way it work ?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
> > ( Remedy Skilled Professional )
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > ** I agree with Neel, whose reasons are sound.  The Interface_Create
> > > form does not always create an Incident, which is why there are gaps.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Neel Guatam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ganga,
> > > >
> > > > When you say 'requestID generated are not in sequence' - are you
> > > > referring to; for example; all the incidents created? If so, that's
> > > > how
> > > > it works as when you open a new incident and select a customer, it
> > > > generated an incident ID and increment the nextID for that module.
> > > > However, when user cancels out and doesn't save that incident, the
> > > > next
> > > > incident created will not be in sequence and have a gap of one. If
> > > > many
> > > > users in production do that then you'll see the broken sequence and
> > > > it's
> > > > normal. IF this is the case then I don't think you should be messing
> > > > with it.
> > > >
> > > > Just my $0.02
> > > >
> > > > Neel Gautam
> > > > Accenture - Chicago Delivery Centre
> > > > Core Values:            Stewardship      *       Best People     *
> > > > Client Value Creation    *       One Global Network      *
> > > > Respect
> > > > for the Individual               *       Integrity
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ganga Prasad
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:50 AM
> > > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > > Subject: Re: Control over Request ID
> > > >
> > > > **
> > > > Thanks Rick
> > > > In fact issue with me is that the request ID generated are not in
> > > > sequence. So can we make the is possible to break the sequence or if
> > > > broken then make it in order ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and Regards,
> > > > Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
> > > > ( Remedy Skilled Professional )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        ** You can, but should do so carefully.  The nextId column in
> > > > the arschema table contains the number of the next Request ID for
> > > > the
> > > > specified form.  Manipulating that manually is done by resetting the
> > > > value via SQL command, which should only be done under specific
> > > > controlled conditions, which are listed in the Remedy documentation.
> > > > Failure to think through the process carefully may result in the
> > > > form
> > > > being unable to accept further entries until the problem is fixed.
> > > >
> > > >        If you want to present a different type of number to
> > > > customers,
> > > > or exercise more control over it, I would recommend that you create
> > > > and
> > > > use a different field.
> > > >
> > > >        Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Ganga Prasad
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                **
> > > >
> > > >                Hi All
> > > >
> > > >                Do we have any control over the sequence of Request
> > > > ID ?
> > > > My understanding is that this number us generated automatically. Can
> > > > we
> > > > control the way it is getting generated ?
> > > >
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