Scott, I stand corrected. I'm curious what platform you are on, because not even a year ago I experienced the opposite, you could still see the field, but you couldn't see the data in the field. I can now confirm that in 7.1 (at least) when you don't have permission to the field, you can't even see the field. Thank you for teaching me something today
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Parrish Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:04 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: User can see fields with no permissions I would think you could run this test yourself. I did just now before sending off the email. Scott Parrish IT Prophets, LLC (770) 653-5203 www.itprophets.com -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: User can see fields with no permissions Scott, I would love for you to prove that to both yourself and me, because I have experienced differently. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Parrish Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:55 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: User can see fields with no permissions LJ, This is not true. If you remove all permissions to a field AND uncheck Allow Any User To Submit, then that field will disappear for any user who is not an Administrator, whether this field is a char, int or otherwise. Also, if you remove any implicit permissions (submitter, assignee) and uncheck Allow Any User To Submit, the field will also disappear from the view. Dwayne, Do you have any implicit permissions on the field, such as submitter or assignee? Also, have you checked this person's membership in other groups? (Maybe he is a member of a different group that does have permission to the field.) Scott Parrish IT Prophets, LLC (770) 653-5203 www.itprophets.com -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:52 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: User can see fields with no permissions Dwayne, Sorry to say, but removing permission to the field removes their permission to see what's in the field, not the field itself. The exceptions to this would be 'Trim' fields, buttons, boxes, etc, because those all disappear when you don't have access, but when you don't have access to a Char, Int, etc you simply can't see the contents of the field, but you can still see the field itself -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:29 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: User can see fields with no permissions Dear List, We have a permission group called "IT". We have a form with some fields that "IT" used to have permission to, but we have decided to remove those permissions. So I went into the Admin Tool and removed "IT" from the permission list in each field. But when a test user with only "IT" permissions opens the form he can still see all the fields. If he tries to change the data and save the form he gets, "ARERR [333] You have no access to field : [field name]", but with "no access" he shouldn't even be able to see the field. I cleared the cache, and made a cosmetic change, and the cosmetic change appears on the screen, so it isn't a caching issue. What is going on? (ARS 7.1, RH Linux server, Oracle 10.2 db) Dwayne Martin James Madison University ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"