Well Gary, 

I live in such a place.  We get -31F in the winter and it was above 103F 
yesterday ....
You need to love extrems to be able to live here ;o)

Pascale Boyer
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Vidéotron Technologie Inc
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Re: Job:  Remedy Developer - Oklahoma City - Contract to Hire - Kforce







William, nice job describing the summer wind. Don't forget the winter wind 
though, it is face-peeling and cold. Well, I guess that frozen skin won't 
really peel off. A hot day in the summer in OK is 105+, a cold day in the 
winter is in the single-digits. I know there are places that get hotter, 
or colder, but is there anywhere that gets both hotter and colder? That 
would be interesting.

Van's Pig Stand is awesome. There is one in Shawnee as well, if you all 
are ever over there. Great food, best BBQ in Oklahoma.

Thanks,



Gary Opela, Jr., RSP

Remedy Engineer

Leader Communications, Inc.

http://www.5pointleader.com

http://www.lcibest.com

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Rentfrow
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Job: Remedy Developer - Oklahoma City - Contract to Hire - 
Kforce

I've spent a fair amount of time in the area too doing work in Norman,
OK - which is basically the burbs at this point.

I'd like to clarify what they call "wind".  I am familiar with wind.  I
lived in Fargo ND for 13 years.  Wind is pretty constant there.  Quite
often it contains snow that can sandblast the skin off of your face
while freezing it.  We called that "spring".  Now I live in what
northern Minnesotans call "the deep south" - ie, the SE metro burbs of
the greater Minneapolis/St. Paul area.

However, the "wind" in OK is not wind as you would normally think of it,
unless you are an industrial worker with great familiarity with blast
furnaces.  You would out into that stuff and your normal hydration level
is instantly cut in half.  The 30-foot walk across the parking lot
suddenly seems like a desert of unimaginable proportions.  And when I
would get to the rental car (which had no sun screen) the interior was
approximately 8,000,000 degrees K.

That said - if you are ever in Norman, OK I HIGHLY recommend "Van's Pig
Stand" - it's simply the best BBQ I've ever had (Memphis and KC have
good stuff too of course - I'm not out to start some kind of holy BBQ
flame war).  And the people down there are very friendly - it's not just
anyplace you can stagger, limp, and half crawl into a restaurant barely
able to utter "HOT! HOT! Wa-wa....need wa-wa....", get a glass of water,
and not have anyone thing twice about it :)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Opela (Corporate)
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Job: Remedy Developer - Oklahoma City - Contract to Hire -
Kforce

I work in OKC and live near by, about 50 miles away. I commute each day.
I have lived in OK for 25 of my 28 years. I like OK a lot. I lived in
Arkansas for 3 years, it's very nice as well.

In 24 years, I've seen 0 tornadoes, about a million ice storms, and
well, you get used to the 30 mph wind. In the last week, we've had some
windy days, around 30 - 40 mph sustained winds all day, we've had, I
think, 3 thunderstorms with 80+ mph wind and baseball sized hail, but
that all missed me, except the wind. It is currently raining, as it has
been all night, I think we're up to around 4".

Carrie Underwood is from Checotah, it's around 75 miles from OKC
probably. Yes, football is all that and a box of chocolates, especially
if you live in a town like the one I live where half the town is OU and
half the town is OSU. Man, church the day after Bedlam (OU vs OSU) can
be quite a tense situation!

Oklahoma is great because you can live in a small, quite town just
outside of the big city, you have great access to the big city, but you
don't' have to be in the big city. Right now, the big thing is
sub-divisions out in the country. I'm building a house, and it will be
ready this week. It's in the country, but is in a sub-division that will
be 40 houses each on around an acre of land. It's nice is all I can say.

Here are some things I've learned living in OK almost all my life:

Tornadoes - Just get a cellar, and get used to it. A closet is no match
for an F-5 tornado with 301 mph winds.

Ice - don't plan trees near your house. They WILL fall on your house.
Don't  park your car under a tree, it will fall on your tree. You may be
able to drive safely on the ice, but the 10% of drivers out there that
are MORONS do not, thus you are not safe. Ice can be fun though, for
those 10% of MORONS!

Hail - 25 year shingles only last about 5 - 7 years in OK. On the plus
side, you get a new roof every 5 - 7 years, so it always looks nice.
Hail makes your car look like a 3 yr old with a  ball-ping hammer got a
hold of it. (and from my stint in Arkansas - Softball sized hail can
punch 4" holes through your roof!)

Fire ants - They hurt, really really bad. They do not like gasoline,
neither do bees, hornets, or wasps, however, fire ants really really
love grass-hoppers when thrown on a nest, as do garden spiders.

Funyuns - The are a round, oniony flavored chip, they also burn green.

Hot Summers - You will never have a summer without a 100 degree day. 100
degrees is really no hotter than 110 degrees. In the summer, 80 degrees
feels cold.

Oceans - Every spring, we experience many oceans. For instance, last
year, the town of kingfisher received 10" of rain in one day and the
entire town was under water, literally.

Singing - For some reason, Oklahoma puts out a lot of singers such as,
Carrie Underwood, Reba McIntyre, Garth Brooks, etc. They all seem to
sing country, which I think is the main genre here. For every rock
station, there are at least 4 FM country stations, and 2 AM country
stations.

Roads - On my 50 mile trip to work, literally 36 miles of it is road
construction.

Thanks,



Gary Opela, Jr., RSP

Remedy Engineer

Leader Communications, Inc.

http://www.5pointleader.com

http://www.lcibest.com

Best Product, Best People, Best PriceTM

An ISO 9001:2000 Certified, CMMI(r) Level 3 Rated Company

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Job: Remedy Developer - Oklahoma City - Contract to Hire -
Kforce

Kelly, I know you are from Oklahoma (so is my Mom), but I've been there,
and, well, while I'm sure that all of what you said is true, you left
out the hornets, fire ants, constant wind, tornadoes, hot summers, icy
winters, and not an ocean within a day's drive.  Of course, they WILL
have an NBA franchise in a year or so, unlike Seattle.  Kevin Durant's
worth watching.
Football season is awesome.  And I think Carrie Underwood's from there,
if you like her music.

To some, that combination might be paradise.  Afraid that a Pacific NW
guy like me is not one of those guys.  I do wish them well in filling
the job with the right fit, though.

Rick

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